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nydeerhntr 01-06-2007 01:03 PM

What caliber @ 100 yds.
 
Hey guys

Next month I'll be heading down to SC for my first hog hunt. I'll be hunting out of a stand over a feeder. I'm not sure of the distance but I'm figuring that the longest shot will be 100 yards.

My primary gun of choice is going to be my TC Omega with 2 pellets of 50 gr. Pyro topped with a 250 gr. TC Shockwave. However, just in case for a back up, I plan on bringing my Dad's .35 Rem., using 200 gr round nose Federal ammo.I may even decide to hunt with this gun since he's no longer with us and it will make mefeel like I'm sharing the hunt him.

Here's my question are both of these load sufficent todo the job if I get a 100 yard shot? Will they have the power to punch through the shoulder plate or will bullet placement be a crital factor in retrieving my hog? In other words at 75 yds. plus only go for a neck shot? If that's the case I'd rather not use these guns since anything canhappen to throwthe shot offand I prefer to have a clean kill.

Thanks in advancefor you answers ................. Joe

tfransi 01-06-2007 01:16 PM

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Recently I have been hunting with my 35 Rem with 200 gr soft points and I shot a 195lb hog at 10 yds right behind the shoulder and it did not pass through. It left a good blood trail but I ended up having to shoot it again in the head to finish it off. Last week I shot a 60lb hog in the neck and dropped it and it did pass through that time. I still have confidence in that gun but I have decided that gun will be hunted in areas 50 yds or less. If I was hunting in an area that I would have 100 yd shots I would take my 30-06 with 150 gr soft points. Just my opinion. Either gun you take good luck on your hunt.

JeffS 01-06-2007 09:46 PM

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I have a .35 Remington and it is an excellent hog gun. I've shot a 300 lb boar in the shoulder and it didn't penetrate all the way through though the heart and lungs were mush. Most guns we use won't shoot completely through the shoulders at longer ranges though as long as you penetrate the first shoulder it will destroy the heart or lungs. The shield on a large boar can be 1-1/2" thick and is like a armor plate. Though on smaller boars or sows we never had any problems at all.

Rebel Hog 01-07-2007 03:03 AM

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.30-30 170gr NP

Texas Hog Hunter 01-08-2007 11:05 AM

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If you shoot one with your T/C let me know how that works out for you. I've never shot one with my muzzleloader, but have always wanted to.

nydeerhntr 01-09-2007 06:19 AM

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Hey guys,

Thanks for the replys. I'm waiting for a reply from our outfitter as to what yardage most shots are taken at. If it's over 75 yds. I think I'll leave the .35 home and take the .30-06. In any event the T/C will be my first choice if possible. I also happened to find some 200 gr. Silvertips for the .35 before I wentto the range this weekend and if I use that gun, that's the bullet I'll match it up with they shot a very nice 1 1/2" 3 shot group at 100 yards! Now I only have about 6 rounds left, but I figure that's 6 pigs on the BBQ pit!

Texas Hog Hunter - my trip isn't until the middle of Feb. however rest assured I will post my sucessfull ( I hope ) results when I get back.

In the mean time, if anybody else wants to add thier expirences or thoughts about using the .50 cal. muzzleloader or .35 Rem. please do so.

drs1961 01-09-2007 07:21 PM

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Congratulations on coming to SC for hogs. We have plenty of em. I work at a hog hunting lodge and have seen hundreds of hogs taken with all weapons. All of your choices of weapons are sufficient for taking hogs. The main considerationsare the bullet construction and bullet placement. Heavy constructed bullets are your best choice. Think about how much you're spending on the hunt and ask yourself if it is worth the price ofone premium box of ammo. I've seen many hogs wounded and not recovered, especially huge trophy boars with that armored shield, because of the bullet not penetrating. I have seen the shield stop a .30 caliber soft point on impact with the only damage being broken ribs from the concussion! A large boar is undeniably the toughest game animal in North America. Sows and young boars don't have this plate and most deer ammo is sufficient for them. On bullet placement. If you are confident, the ear hole is the most effective shot. They do notrun away from that one. Other than that, aim forward and LOW. A hog's heart lies completely covered by it's front legs which contains heavy bonesthat require the aforementioned heavy built bullet to penetrate. It's lungs do not reach but just a few inches behind the front legs and are low. The spine of a hog drops down from the base of the skull to the level of it's jaw in it's neck before curving back up under it's shoulders. A hog with a 3 inch mane and 7 inches of muscle above it'svertebrae can beshot6 or more inches down onthe neck and not hit anything vital. Usually these hits will knock the hog down momentarily and then theit takes off not to be recovered. So if a neck shot is your preference, shoot below the halfway mark. Like dangerous game, if it is down but not out, put another round into it. Hogs are notorious for not leaving good blood trails, especially the wooly ones. Hope this helps and good luck on your hunt.

358WINMAN 01-09-2007 08:07 PM

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Just came back from hunting a hog this past weekend. I love .35 cals, but never had a .35 rem. I do 90% of my hunting with a .358 Winchester, hence the login name.
I use onlymy handloads for this round as boxes of Winchester Silvertips are more of a collectors item than off the shelf rounds.
I used a 225 grain Sierra Game King in .358 diameter. Load isnear the top end for that bullet(49 gr.IMR4895). The accuracy is awesome and the knock down power is truly " lights out!"
The reason I mention this is because a handloader might be able to make you a good hog round for your .35 Rem. Since the gun means so much and you like it for accuracy reasons, this might be a viable option. Your '06 will kill'em, no doubt. Your Dad's gun will make the hog and the hunt worth more than words might say. The picture you take for your wall will be special each time you look at or show friends. Your Dad's rifle will lie next to your hog!
For what its worth, I'd get them loaded and hunt that hog! My Dad has been gone now for 7 yrs and I have things of his I'll cherish forever. His tackle box is in my garage and fishing rod also. My 5 yr old son will be fishing with his Opa's rod this summer. Need I say more!

texas.410 01-11-2007 05:24 AM

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I am kind of in your boots aswell. Im going on my first hog hunt the 9th of Feb. I got a new CZ rifle in December. Its a .22 hornet. I realy want to use it on this hog hunt. Im not going for a big pig, under a hundred pounds is what Im after. I have been told a couple of times that a shot in or under the ear will do the trick with a .22 hornet. But those pig move alot and will have to take carefull aim and hit the mark the first time.
If I dont use the hornet I do have a 7.62x39 in an Ak-47, or my old modle 70 in 30-06.

Carpmaster 01-11-2007 08:28 AM

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They both should solve any of your 100 yard Hog problems!

Tree climber 01-11-2007 07:26 PM

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the 50 cal. M/L will do the trick fine. I shoot a 45 cal M/L as does my wife and we have no problems.these are just 2 my wife has taken with B/P 45 cal wit 225 powerbelts 2 , 50 grain pellets.




clint802 01-27-2007 08:25 PM

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I like the 444 Marlin with 265 FP Hornady Light Magnums.

tireman461 01-27-2007 08:56 PM

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Shoot the hogs just under the ears. make sure your rifle is sighted dead center. i have known of friends killing a hog with a 17HMR right under the ears. know if you are looking for a trophy then a you would not shot the hog on the head. hog hunting is awesome especially if they come in in bunches. good luck and have fun

nydeerhntr 02-02-2007 07:05 PM

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Well thanks for the replys from everyone. I e-mailed the outfitter and he said that the farthest shot should be 90 yds. He also recommends bullet placement under the ear and said as long as I have the confidence and ability to do that with either rifle I shouldn't have a problem.

I decided to go in with my T/C Omega first and if I'm lucky enough to take a hog before my 3 days are up I'll go back in for the second one with the .35

Look out Dixie here comes Mr. Omega and Mr. .35 Rem

Wish me luck guys, I'm leaving in a week and a half, until then I'll be lurking. I'll post my results good or bad as soon as I get back ( can you tell the excitment is starting to grow in me )!

shump 02-04-2007 05:52 AM

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nyd who are you going down to? gl.i go down to deerfield plantation.let us know how you do.ops i like the 450 when i go

outdoorsmanrsk 02-05-2007 01:08 PM

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Though I would not recommend ever shooting at a hog with a .22, it is all about shot placement. If you put the bullet in the right spot, you can handle just about anything even with the smallest of calibers. I saw a hunting show the other day, where they showed this guy kill a hog with this new adult air rifle. Amazing!! People place way too much importance on having such large calibers as .300, .308, 7mm mag, or whatever else for hunting animals such as whitetail or hog. Though those guns definatly insure a knockdown, I do not feel that they are necessary for shooting such animals.

I have a ranch outside of Corpus Christi, TX, and have always hunted with the same ruger 6mm. I have killed quite a few deer and countless hogs and have only had one animal run off on me after I hit it. This was a pig that went about 300 lbs, and caliber was not the problem, shot placement was. My scope got bumped and the gun was shooting about a foot to the right. With this gun, I have dropped 300+ lb pigs right in their tracks. I like it so much that I have never wanted to get anything else. It is about a step up from a .243. However, a .243 is as low as I would ever go. Though, when I was very little I used a 2-23, and killed everything I shot as well.

Even though I love my 6mm, I would have to say that there is a better gun for deer/hog hunting, in my mind. This gun is the 25-06. It is a supersonic bullet that also has quite powerfull knockdown power without going over kill. Alot of south texas hunters use this gun and I think it is the best for the game down here. Take in mind, I have never hunted the heavy bodied deer up north. But, they couldnt have thicker skin than an old boar.

Whatever you shoot, just practice and be comfortable with that gun. Placement is everything. You could kill a deer with a rock and sling if you knocked it in the right spot. However, I would never suggest that you shoot a hog with a .22 no matter how good of shot you are. At least go with something high powered out of respect for the animal. You might get one with a .22 but there is a good chance that it will run off on you. Though I stopped it cold, I can remember shooting a small hog twice with my 6mm, cutting its throat, and then putting 4 rounds of .40 cal pistol fire into it and the sucker was still breathing when I gave up and starting quartering it. Swear to God!!



Rebel Hog 02-05-2007 01:47 PM

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[quote]ORIGINAL: outdoorsmanrsk


Though I would not recommend ever shooting at a hog with a .22, it is all about shot placement. If you put the bullet in the right spot, you can handle just about anything even with the smallest of calibers. I saw a hunting show the other day, where they showed this guy kill a hog with this new adult air rifle. Amazing!! People place way too much importance on having such large calibers as .300, .308, 7mm mag, or whatever else for hunting animals such as whitetail or hog. Though those guns definitely insure a knockdown, I do not feel that they are necessary for shooting such animals.
10-4,Good Buddy!

I was stationed in Corpus at the USCoast Guard Buoy Yard in 1959. Right under the bridge!:)

simplemanforever 02-06-2007 07:05 PM

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I have a model 788 remington 243.100 grain sf.I shot two hogs of at least a hundred yds one fell on impact and the other ran 10 ft and collapsed dead.If your going for a smaller hog say between 70 and 135 smaller caliber will do just fine.The thing i like about the 243 when u get out at a hundred yards or so their aint much damage to the meat.Heck at the time it leaves the muzzle its velocity is around 2900 and by the time its a hundred its still at 2700 and even up to 400 hundred yds its kicking out 1990fps.energy at a hundred should be around 2000 ft/lbs..Sorry dude im rambling on hope i didnt confuse u sorry.

nydeerhntr 02-24-2007 12:45 PM

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Hey Guys,

One word SUCCESS! We left NY on 2/14 @ 4:30 in the am. Slipping and sliding all the way down to Hemingway SC. Should have been a 11 1/2 to 12 1/2 hr trip. It took us 15 1/2 hours. I guess we were lucky though because we saw numerous tractor trailers jack knifed and passenger cars flipped over until we got to southern Virgina.

Any way enough of that. Wehunted Thursday evening and only one of the four of us saw and connected with a hog. A nice 120lb. sow. The next night my same friend shot a 70lb. boar, another friend shot a 140lb. boar and I shot a 125lb. boar and got to hang my shirt tail up because I missed one earlier in the day. My nephew saw 4 hogs but couldn't get a shot because they wouldn't cooperate and come to the corn instead they hung up for a while in the woods and then meanderd off. The last night none of us saw any hogs, but we all saw deer and some saw turkey. All in all it was a great adventure and we all could see ourselves doing it again.

The place were we stayed is called Waccamaw Hunting Services and Ihave no troublerecommending it. Rick grubbs runs a very tight and personal hunt. He only hunt 4 hunters at a time and devotes lots of time making sure you are comfortable

I took my boar @ 68 yds. with my .50 cal. T/C Omega. 250gr. Hornday SST/ML and two Pyrodex pellets. Since he was quartered left Iplaced the shot just in front of his shoulder where his neck meets it. He went down like a ton of bacon kicked a few times and that was teh end of that story!

When I went to pick up the meat from the butcher he told me he had a suprise for me and handed me my bullet. I weighed it and it came up 194.3gr. That means that the bullet retained 78% of its weight and mushroomed like the ones you see in the magazine ads.

I need to thank everyone here for the helpful advice and knowledge that you shared with me it certainly gave me the confidence to do whatI needed to do to get my first pig!

Below are some photos I hope this works




nydeerhntr 02-24-2007 12:46 PM

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Here's another one


nydeerhntr 02-24-2007 12:48 PM

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Here's the bullet




nydeerhntr 02-24-2007 12:49 PM

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Last one !!!!!!

Thanks again guys ..........




Rebel Hog 02-24-2007 12:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: nydeerhntr

Here's another one


Good eating sizes NY! Congrat's

nydeerhntr 02-24-2007 01:03 PM

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Thanks Rebel,

One question.... We were told to freeze them for a few weeks before cooking and eating them. Is this true or just and old wives tail? If its true do you know the reason for doing it?

Thanks again .............. Joe

Rebel Hog 02-24-2007 01:52 PM

RE: What caliber @ 100 yds.
 

ORIGINAL: nydeerhntr

Thanks Rebel,

One question.... We were told to freeze them for a few weeks before cooking and eating them. Is this true or just and old wives tail? If its true do you know the reason for doing it?

Thanks again .............. Joe
On the sameday of the kill, after scalding with boilding water and burlap sacks, scraping the hair off and butchering! We apply "La Lechonera Mojo Marinade every 15 mins with a 4" brush,








Hey Joe, I took the liberty to Post your pictures on the Black Powder Forum!:)

nydeerhntr 02-24-2007 02:04 PM

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Rebel,

Thanks for the quick reply AND the posting in the Black Powder section.

Looks like it'll be hog on the menu sooner thenI thought!

Joe

Rebel Hog 02-24-2007 02:50 PM

RE: What caliber @ 100 yds.
 

ORIGINAL: nydeerhntr

Rebel,

Thanks for the quick reply AND the posting in the Black Powder section.

Looks like it'll be hog on the menu sooner thenI thought!

Joe
Joe, just make sure you give it enough cooking time! No pink meat!:)

alsaqr 02-24-2007 08:26 PM

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"The 50 cal. M/L will do the trick fine."

It sure will do that.I've used the .50 caliber 250 grain SST and the 240 grain XTP.Now i use the SST exclusively for deer and hogs.About only time that i use a repeater is when i go after boars in thethick brush. Then i take myModel 870shotgun and slugs.You ain't really felt helpless until you miss a charging 250 pound boarhog at 30 feet with a M/L.

slicksvt 02-24-2007 11:18 PM

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Used my Desert Eagle 50 AE at 50 yards 325 jhp, nasty gut shot


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