bugsNbows

+1 Duck's comments. Sorry folks, I'm just not a Remmy fan.

DeerandbearhoG

Ive owned 3 700s and they all shot great w/out bedding or floating anything. All Ive ever done is adjust the trigger. I currently have a 700mt rifle w/ a thin barrel ,that will shoot 1'' groups or less, and put 5 shots in a paper plate at 200yds just resting the forend. I did put a rifle basix trigger in it, but the older factory ones can be easily adjusted.
http://www.quarterbore.com/library/a...00trigger.html

Pawildman

There's a great reference on this subject out "there". It's called "Accurizing The Factory Gun".... by M.L. McPherson, published by Precision Shooting, Inc. It deals with the what's, why's, and how's of it all. If you're serious about tinkering, it's worth your time. Lots of real good stuff there. Y'all go git one, y'hear?

DocHunter

I have a Remington 700 BDL-LH in .270 that I have owned since about 1976. Very early I had it glass bedded, barrel free-floated, and trigger adjusted to 2 lb. I handload practically all my ammo, but it shoots practically everything I have ever fed it into 1-1 1/2 in. groups at 100 yards. All I have to do is adjust my scope or allow for different point of impact of various loads. I couldn't ask for a greater degree of accuracy in a gun that I can use for anything from ground hogs to elk. As far as I am concerned, no custom rifle could serve me any better.

Centaur 1

You have to love high speed video. I'm sure that it was a thinner than normal barrel, but I saw a video once that actually showed a bulge moving down the barrel with the bullet. To answer the original question, try different ammo. I know that it's said all the time, but a lot of guys are hung up on really wanting to make a certain bullet work. My 700 in 30-06 really likes the plain jane 150grain Core-lokts, it'll group under an inch with them but Winchester 150 grain power points average 3" groups.

podunk kennels

Remember fellas that deer arent killed with groups. A bullet better suited to your hunting scenario that shoots a little looser group is better than a poor bullet that shoots great.

bugsNbows

Well said Podunk.

Blackelk

I believe in the reloading bench first then the tinkering. But I'll have to agree most problems start with a stiff trigger. If your pulling enough there's no way your gonna have consistant groups. Trigger job first.

One time at Honady camp.... lol

We were told by a hornady ammo tester if any given random box pulled out of a lot shot 3" groups or under that lot was considered good to go. That was years apon years ago. Hopefully standards have changed which I know they have. But sometimes I'm curious of how the tolerances of Rifle and Ammunition manufactors stick to those guidelines. And with today's riflemen expecting the very best they should be coming off the shelf with top notch degree of quality. Savage you have come along ways lil brother Kudo's to you. Step up or go out of business should be the motto. I'd rather pay another 500 bucks for a great rifle than know I'm gonna spend 1000 bucks making it shoot.

stapher1

I surprised that nobody has blamed the person pulling the trigger, I've handed my benchrifle to my buddy and watched him print a 4" group with a gun that shoot's .100" 5 shot groups.

I've watched guys sight rifles in with nothing but a bi-pod and you could watch the gun jiggle like they were in a earthquake.

Guys sight their rifle offhand....p.s I asked the guy if he was burning up old ammo and gave me the answer of " No, i'm sighting the phucking thing in" and "I don't hunt with a rest, so why would i sight in with one" Then he wondered why it took him a box of shell's to get close, And no he didn't get it sighted in, he just run out of ammo.

People using human silhouette targets to sight in deer rifles.

Guys putting their finger(s) on the barrel.

Man, i could be here all night with this, Point being we would criticize a guy for not practing with a bow but why do rifle shooters not get the same criticism?

stalkingbear

Along with working up good loads and bedding/freefloating the barrel I might suggest playing with pressure points in the forend and hand lapping the bolt lugs and bore.