Thanks, stubblejumper I have not been reading "too much propaganda". simply the ballistics tables.

Ballistic tables using data provided by Browning or Winchester perhaps?Even most shooting magazines and websites use data provided by the manufacturers, so they can be misleading..

OK - I admit to liking the .270 WSM. The 7MM Rem Mag is a great round as well. But in the same barrel length (22") and at the same pressure; the WSM (or 7MM RSAUM) will develop a little more speed than a 7 Rem Mag due to its shorter, fatter powder column. The case capacity of these two is very close, with a very slight advantage going to the 7 Mag, but not enough to overcome the better efficiency of the WSM case. And as for accuracy, ask any benchrest shooter about short fat cases . . . .

PS: Glad you have such an exceptionally accurate 7 Rem Mag.

Yes you can use hypothetical data to skew data and the shorter the barrel that you use the more of a disadvantage that it is to the larger capacity cartridge.I personally have not seen any commercially available 7mmremmags with 22" barrels and even if they are available ,they would certainly be a very small minority of the 7mmremmags available.
Lets be realistic here and use the barrel lengths that the rifles chambered in these cartridges are actually sold with.Since Browning and Winchester are the originators of the wsm's and the majority of the rifles in use that are chambered for the wsm's are Winchester or Browning rifles, lets use their data.
The model 70 rifles sold in 270wsm are equipped with 24" barrels and the model 70's sold in 7mmrem mag are equipped with 26" barrels.The a-bolts sold in 270wsm are equipped with 23" barrels while the a-bolts sold in 7mmremmag are equipped with 26" barrels.After all most people are buying rifles chambered for the the wsm's because of their shorter overal lengths and lighter weights. .
Therefore the 7mmremmags not only have a larger case capacity,but they are also usually equipped with longer barrels.The combination of the larger case capacity and longer barrel that allows the 7mmremmag to better utilize the larger case capacity, does result in the 7mmremmag producing more velocity with bullets of equal weight.
The rifles that I chronographed that were chambered for these cartridges were real rifles using real barrel lengths which might explain why my experiences differ from yours.

You are right. An ADEQUATE well placed caliber is better than a sloppy boomer. Maybe, and that is maybe a same placed boomer would take out that last shoulder and keep him down. Who knows? Nobody, only JC can answer that one.

There were three shots on the elk. My friends first shot, the elk ran with a bubbly blood trail, the spine, the elk dropped and ran in a circle, the third shot close range, the animal was retired.

Can anyone answer this for me: I would like a 270WSM to take on a high muley hunt. I want a LIGHTWEIGHT accurate reliable gun... under 1000.

Hmmm..if this 270 wsm isnt adequate for the bigger game....how have all those moose and such fell in Europe with the lowly 6.5 swede??? It dont matter what ya have...u put er through the ribs and into the lungs and said animal is gonna go nitey nite.

After reading through all of the pages, I can not find where someone said the 270 WSM was not adequate for larger game, they just stated that there are better rounds out there for larger game. As for Sweden and moose, the harvest is mostly CALVES, which weigh, what maybe 300 pounds at MOST? It doesn't take much to kill something that weighs 300 lbs and doesn't really know how to survive on its own yet.

[quote}Can anyone answer this for me: I would like a 270WSM to take on a high muley hunt. I want a LIGHTWEIGHT accurate reliable gun... under 1000.[/quote]

KImber Montana in 270 wsm should be just the ticket. I'm thinking of getting one but can't decide on the caliber. I posted a review from one of the shooting mags but can't remember which one. Do a Kimber search and you should be able to find it. Hope I didn't mess anyone up by actually anwering the question.

Thanks for the insight...I feel sooo much smarter now...

The Swedes take many full size moose and Elk size animale with the 6.5x55. They would be suprised as hell to find out that they only shoot calf size animals. I have shot a lot of big game animals with the Swedish Mauser but thats a different topic from the 270 WSM Which by the way is an excellent all around big game rifle based just on what its smaller cousin the 270 Win. has done.