Rifle Recoil????
 

Hey guys what is the recoi like on 7 mill,s 300 win mags, 300 WSM and 30 06's compared to lets say a 12 gauge with 3 1/2 turkey loads? Thanks, Spence.

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With similar weight guns the recoil would go like this assuming all were loaded with mid-weight bullets (least to most):

.30-06, 7mm Mag, 300 WSM, .300 Win Mag, 3 1/2" 12 gauge turkey load. The .30-06 and 7mm Mag, and the two .300's may be too close to each other to tell the difference, and the 12 gauge turkey load is MUCH more than any of those listed.

Mike

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If you’re interested you can check it out for your self and make the comparison. The table for the shotgun doesn’t have the 3-1/2” shells but should give you a good idea on recoil for other shells including the 10 gauge.. Hope this helps out on your question.
www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm www.chuckhawks.com/shotgun_recoil_table.htm

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My .300 Win Mag loads' recoil is around 33.16 lbs.

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Wow, what kinda load you shooting out of that 300? Thats more than my RUM.

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Maybe the .460 Weaterby could come close. Those loads are pretty much what used to be shot in 8 gauges, and those old guns weighed a lot more than the ones made today.

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72.0 H4350 behind a 165gr bullet. Its actually more like a little over 29.0 lbs. But the one I am testing is 70.0 IMR4350 under a 180gr bullet which will more than likely be closer to 33+

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IMO, a heavier 12 gauge load like the one you mentioned will recoil much harder than any of the rifle calibers listed. I have all the calibers you list except a 300 WSM. Honestly, I don’t feel that much difference in recoil between my .30-06, 7mm Rem Mag, and .300 Win Mag, and they’re similarly-sized rifles. The shotgun kicks harder.

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Just picking up one of those rifles and shooting and you think there is not much a recoil difference. Sit down and shoot the 30/06 10 times then pick up the wsm and you'll think it is beating you to death. I never thought my 7mag was that bad till I sighted in my 25/06 this year THEN picked up my magnum. It's what you get used to. You'll never get "used to" a 3.5 with turkey loads. They kick like a mule.

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Just from shooting the guns I thingk there is a big difrances from shot guns to rifles.

The rifle has a snap kick.

The shot gun is more of a push.

This is just what I think,Is there any point on this?

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I agree that felt recoil is subjective and relative to what is being fired. When I say that I don’t notice much difference between my .30-06, 7mm RM, and .300 WM, I mean firing multiple shots from the bench, i.e. sighting in a scope. Obviously, I can tell a difference with my .30-06 if I just got done firing a bunch from my AR-15. Conversely, if I just fired a box of .45-70 out of my Marlin 1895G, the 7mm and .30’s feel like light calibers. I still say the 12 gauge kicks harder than anything .300 WM or less, IMO.

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I have a mossberg 835 12 guage and I do hunt turkeys with 31/2 inch 5's and with the exception of checking my pattern every year I don't want to shoot the shotgun unless I am shooting at a Tom.It flat out pounds you.I have owned a .300 win mag in a winchester feather weight.Light gun big caliber,it didn't kick nearly as bad.
A decent solution is to get a shotgun that is a semi-automatic,because of the release of gases with the ejection of the shell the recoil is significantly less.A high end recoil pad is a pretty good idea too.

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Does someone have an estimate for the amount of kick that a 12 guage turkey load produces?

Tom

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Depends on the gun and load your shooting.My 835 Ultimag with 3 1/2" loads kicks like a .416 WOW[:o]

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I don't know if my limited experience is going to help any in this thread, but when sighting in Turkey loads in my Remington shotgun, it feels more heavy recoil than when I shoot my Remington 30-06 BDL with a plastic butt pad.
I can shoot that 700 for the entyre afternoon and it don't bother me at all, but 25 rounds with my Remington 700 BDL in 300 W. M. (with recoil pad) and I get a headache from the whiplash.
I will say that Turkey loads feel to me like the 300 Magnun.

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Recoil is so subjective. My 125 pound wife has shot a 460 and said it was a bit much but very workable. Have a 300 pound large framed buddy(IE not 300 pounds of fat) that almost cried when his 338 came in. had to put a brake on it right away.

There are so many things involved. Same amount of recoil but at differing speeds of recoil makes a huge difference. Shape of stock and how it fits. What position you shoot from. How hard you hold the gun. How tense your body is. How scared you are.

I will not get another rifle without having a quality recoil pad on it regardless(well maybe not on a 243.....) I even have a pad on a lightweight 308. You can do it without, but with pad makes it nicer. All stocks will fit or be cut to fit. After that I can put on a brake if needed. And the heck with those that constantly bitch about brakes. One shot I can live with in the field.

End thoughts are to buy what you want to and you can most likely figure out how to make it work and live with it. As to all the mag shells-- I do think that the 7 mags mentioned are a bit less in recoil than the 30s with larger bullets. But to me there isn't a ton of difference.

Jeff

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I have a Remington SP-10 and shoot 3 1/2 inch 10 guage magnum loads. The recoil using 2 1/4 ounce turkey loads is similar to my Weatherby Vanguard in .300 Weatherby Magnum. I find it quite manageable. However, the SP-10 is a very heavy gun, 11 pounds, and the felt recoil from a 7 1/2 pound 12 guage firing 3 1/2 inch magnums might be very punishing in comparison.

Californiadoctor

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There wasn't nothin' pushy about the 3" 17/8 oz turkey load I shot ONE of to pattern my shotgun. More like a rap on the shoulder by a good light heavy weight, a sensation I had ONCE in the Navy.

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I own a .338 win. mag and would shoot it all day long compared to my buddies 12 ga. w/ 3 1/2 slugs! I'm no small guy, about 225 pounds but those slugs were brutal. If you can handle shooting a 12 ga. with 3 1/2 turkey loads you can handle any of the calibers you mentioned.;)

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The 12 guage with 3 1/2's will kick ya harder.