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bigcountry 03-22-2005 07:15 PM

RE: .30-378 wby mag- How good is it??
 
Can I get amen?:D

leftmehangin 03-23-2005 09:29 AM

RE: .30-378 wby mag- How good is it??
 
Helll Noo you can't you argue with everyone.

bigcountry 03-23-2005 09:42 AM

RE: .30-378 wby mag- How good is it??
 
Its a joke man. Go back to mental ward now.

Solitary Man 03-23-2005 10:02 AM

RE: .30-378 wby mag- How good is it??
 
A .30-378 wouldn't be my choice, but it's your money. Spend it like you want.

haugenna 03-23-2005 02:11 PM

RE: .30-378 wby mag- How good is it??
 
Stubblejumper,

What? HUH? Speak up old timer.

I always use hearing protection when hunting. Walker II (both ears) in the field and muffs on plugs at the range.

Driftrider,

I was at my range, a hay field next to a woods, Three shots within 4 inches of the ten ring at 450yds. Leupold 4.5-14 boone and crocket. Make that shot consistently with your gun. Won't happen. I wouldn't feel comfortable making that shot with the 300 win mag. At 450 yards that animal will fall like a stone with 2700 lbs of energy. Every situation is different. I would not make that shot on a real windy day. Every gun and shooter has its limitations. Some higher than others.

Bigcountry, YOU SAID IT..


Why is everyone so scared to try anything new? I admit the 30-378 is more than I can handle, cause if I can't shoot it without a break, I have no business shooting it, but if the guy can handle the recoil, why not? Maybe he's not in your situation can't affording the shells. Maybe he just likes guns and wants something different.everyone would be driving hybrid cars instead of thier F350's to run around town

driftrider 03-23-2005 03:18 PM

RE: .30-378 wby mag- How good is it??
 

I was at my range, a hay field next to a woods, Three shots within 4 inches of the ten ring at 450yds. Leupold 4.5-14 boone and crocket. Make that shot consistently with your gun. Won't happen. I wouldn't feel comfortable making that shot with the 300 win mag. At 450 yards that animal will fall like a stone with 2700 lbs of energy. Every situation is different. I would not make that shot on a real windy day. Every gun and shooter has its limitations. Some higher than others.
Congratulations, um, but what the heck are you talking about? "Three shots within 4 inches of the ten ring at 450 yards," is absolutely meaningless without a frame of reference. How big is the 10 ring on the target? 1"? 2"? 5"? 10"? Even if you meant to say 4" of EACH OTHER, that is a respectable but not spectacular 0.9 MOA group. What, other than your own ego, makes you think that my Tikka won't shoot that well at that range? You're talking about accuracy, and accuracy has nothing whatsoever to do with power. The same ego that makes you think you need a 30-378 Wby. Mag., won't let you even consider that a less powerful gun can't be as accurate as yours is, despite the fact that the two are not mutually inclusive. I'm in the initial load work-up state with my Tikka, but from the groups it shot with factory ammo (which hovered around 1.1 MOA average), the gun shows a great deal of promise. I'm sure that if I put a high magnification scope on it the groups would shrink a bit, but I can't see any need to put more than a 10x scope on a rifle meant to shoot elk, and I don't need an excessively big scope or gun to compensate for other inadequacies. As for killing power, the same 180 grain TSX bullet at 450 yards from my .300 WSM will kill any animal just as dead as your .30-378 if we both hit it right. However, I would not take such a shot simply because I know it is outside my ability to ensure a clean kill under field shooting conditions. I would get closer or pass on the shot. I'm not going to risk wounding an animal just to boost my ego or win bragging rights. It's called maturity, and it comes with age for most, or not at all for some. I hope your time will come.

Enjoy your rifle. As long as your ego and wallet are larger than your intellect, it's the perfect gun for you.

Mike

haugenna 03-23-2005 05:31 PM

RE: .30-378 wby mag- How good is it??
 
Sorry 4" from each other. That is not a spectacular rest either. That is not perfect, but that will land me in the pump house of all big game in NA. I never declared the WBY gun as the most accurate. It is however one of the flattest shooting guns for hunting. Along with that it delivers a lot of power to the animal at 450 yards. Accuracy being the same between the WBY and the Tikka, the WBY will have more knock down power and that is good. That is why I feel comfortable taking a long range shot with it on a calm day. I practice in field shooting conditions to prepare for field shooting conditions. No sandbags or comfortable benches. Only the pack on my back, bipod, tree branches, fence posts, round hay bales, and other objects are used for a rest. Hands down all things being the same, ability of shooter , bullet weight, and shooting conditions, the WBY out performs the wsm. You can't argue that. And if you want to start crying about recoil, your from Iowa, it has the same recoil as a slug. Speaking of Iowa, did u hear they are going to give the bottom half of Iowa to Missouri and increase the IQ of both states.

haugenna 03-23-2005 05:55 PM

RE: .30-378 wby mag- How good is it??
 
uh oh here come another book.

driftrider 03-23-2005 06:22 PM

RE: .30-378 wby mag- How good is it??
 

And if you want to start crying about recoil, your from Iowa, it has the same recoil as a slug.
They must not teach physics in school where you're from, because a 1oz (437.5gr) slug at a very fast (for a slug gun) 1900fps in a 7.5lb shotgun will produce a stout 37ft-lbs of free recoil which is nothing compared to the 54ft-lbs of your .30-378. You seem to be really hung up on numbers, so this should mean something to you.


knock down power
This tells me that you put too much emphasis on raw numbers. I am of the opinion that there is no such thing as "knock down power," because none of the cartridges any of us hunt with have the energy to actually knock anything down. "Knock down power" is a product of the creative minds of gun writers. I've personally shot a deer at 30 yards straight through the heart and both lungs with a .50cal muzzleloader that ran 75 yards before she died. I shot another with the same muzzleloader at 75 yards just through one lung and the liver that dropped just feet from where I shot him. The only constant is that as long as the animals are hit in the vitals with enough gun to penetrate to (or I prefer all the way through) their vitals, they will die. Some go right down, others run, but they all die and die quickly. That's what matters and what you can't get. So your rifle shoot a little flatter (4" less at 400 yards, whoopie! :eek:), and hits with a little more energy, but mine still has more than enough to penetrate clean through any deer on the planet at the same 400 yards, so who cares? Mine costs less, kicks less, lasts longer, and is easier to shoot better.

Oh, and you must think very highly of the people of Missouri. Is that where you live?

Mike

driftrider 03-23-2005 06:28 PM

RE: .30-378 wby mag- How good is it??
 

uh oh here come another book.
Look at the bright side, at least now you've read one that didn't say Dr. Seuss on the front cover.

Mike


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