Burris fullfield II 4.5-14 .......w/ balistic plex.......for the money and performance...the only way to go...Regards, Rick

i agree. the nikon pro staff & buckmaster,i've tried some of the others in that price range,nikon for is the one for that amount of money

go with a Simmons AETEC

That's as sorry a collection of scopes to pick from that I have seen in a while. Bushnell 3200,Nikon Monarch(not much more),Simmons Aetec and probably a few more in that price range.

I went and looked on Saturday. I tried out three scopes and actually liked the sight picture better on the Rifleman than the more expensive leupold (VX-II, which I did not like a at all) and I believe a Burris. I am going back on Friday to make my final decision, but will definitely check ot the simmons, Burris and Nikons. Thanks for all your comments.

You can slam Leupolds all you want but I have an old Vari-X III that I've had on my Sako for ten years. A couple of years ago I slid off of a ATV bridge on my lease into a freezing cold creek. Threw me about 10-15 feet down the creek with my rifle right beside me. Cleaned the rifle and shot it that afternoon. Still right on the money. This scope hasn't lost any clarity in ten years. I like Bushnells also, but for my "go to" rifle I would only use the Leupold's VIII if it is anything like the Vari X III.

SO on my first elk hunt I took a Swarovski 1.5-6x42(30mm) on a 7 Rem mag and slipped on some rocks and the fell on the gun. DInged the objective bell pretty well , gun never lost zero. Same hunt fellow with a Vari-x III 2.5-8x36 banged up his scope and the glass in the objective shattered. VX-III's are not anywhere what a Vari-x III was except in price. They have a 3 piece tube not 1 piece like the Old vari-x III's. SO whats your point ? Are Leupolds rugged ..answer is yes are they the best and the answer is no.

Dad gone guys, you all are a little rough on the leupys. Have any of you guys even had one of the rifleman or just department store evaluators? I mean it ain't my first choice but it ain't that bad. I mounted one for my brothers 204, and it works. You look thru it, you aim you fire. It works.


Oldelk, I listened to ya about the ziess, and did a fair infield comparison. I just don't see it, and I look thru optics, microscopes, all day long for a living.

I think an eye exam is in order BC

Did not intend to start such controversy, but I do appreciate the views. My knowledge of scopes is admittedly non-existent to weak. I think it is definitely improving, improving. Shot a .30-30 with iron sights for deer and borrowed a scoped .300 for elk, so I don't have any experience buying scopes. Thanks again