biscuit jake

Yup. If there is anything between you and the meat, the 223 is just another squirrel rifle.

Briman

.50 BMG Barret rifles.

At ranges where .308s and .338s start to peter out, the .50s still have a lot of real estate that they can cover.

The best BCs you can get with .308 bullets is around .500, while .50 bullets can have BCs over 1.0, meaning they buck the wind much better, and are slowed down far less by air drag.

Briman

Here's a good similation for long range shooting. Note the amount of wind drift adjustment you need to make with the .308 rifle, versus the .50.

http://shooterready.com/

speedgator

Good simulation software! Thanks for the link.

Sniper151

Briman The Barrett and McMillan 50 BMG's are exceptional long range rifles. There application in Iraq is a perfect match. But you wouldn't want to use a 50 as an urban sniper rifle. That bullet will take out a block wall, your target and the next four houses before it expends all it energy. Not alot of fun to shoot for multiple shots in repetition either.[:-]

Briman

Not fun?

The only one I shot was a home made bolt action contraption, it didn't have much recoil, but it far less fun to be off to the side of it because of the muzzle blast from the huge compensator.

Sniper151

I didn't get the chance for the Barrett, but I did have a couple of shots with the McMillan. You deifinatly don't want your spotter to far to either side when you touch that animal off. I shot at a target 1,400 yards with 2 rounds of tracer amo at Camp Pendleton and the bullet ricoched off the sand AFTER hitting the target. Now THAT'S some smoke.[:-]

aborquez18

8.60x70mm(.338 Lapua)

KareImp

All depends, if your gonna shoot at me, I'd probably say a BB gun!

rjimmer

In .308, I think my Steyr Manlicher SSG would take some beating!