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Leafrivermac 01-03-2005 05:06 PM

270 ?
 
I just this season started hunting with a 270. I'm using the 130 gr corelokts. What has surprised me tho is that this load did'nt penetrate clear thru. I'm used to the 30/06. I've killed two good size bucks. I shot both broad side shoulder, one at 80 yds and the other at just less than a hundred. Both dear dropped on the spot. Neither had clear thru penetration.I was really surprised tho that the damage to the shoulders was minimal on both deer, compared to the 06 which generally devastaded the shoulders. I really did'nt think there would be that much difference in the 270 and the o6. I know that many don't approve of the shoulder shot, . . .sorry if that offends . . .it's what has worked best for me.

Doe Dumper 01-03-2005 05:15 PM

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I have been using a 270 on deer for a long time also. I use the 130 Federal hi shoks....I almost always get pass thrus but what I dont get is instant death like you are getting. Dunno if I would complain bout that or not..lol. Anytime the bullet doesnt come out that means it gave 100% of its energy to the vitals on that deer. I dunno if its typical with those bullets but it sound slike a good deal. I get meat damage galore also....

Theres a lot of 270 hunters on here I'm sure you'll get some good opinions.

Virginia7 01-03-2005 05:18 PM

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.....I've killed two good size bucks. I shot both broad side shoulder, one at 80 yds and the other at just less than a hundred. Both dear dropped on the spot......
So, what's the problem? I guess you just expected more damage, and wanted an exit
wound? Are you making a fair comparison with results you had from the 30-06? What
bullet/load did you use in the '06? What range were the hits using the '06? Where were the hits with the '06?
Given both deer dropped "on the spot" when using the 270Win., you should be pleased.
If you want more penetration I'd suggest you look to a "stouter" bullet/load - try the
150gr. Core-Lokts or Core-Lokt Ultras. Federal loads a 150gr. using the Nosler partition
bullet, and a 140gr. using the Trophy Bonded bullets.

frizzellr 01-03-2005 05:25 PM

RE: 270 ?
 

I'm using the 130 gr corelokts.
There is your problem. Forget CoreLokts. I have never had any luck with CoreLokts in anything under 30 cal. Get yourself some Winchester or Federal shells and you should see some difference.

Fiahblade 01-03-2005 06:57 PM

RE: 270 ?
 
Federal Premiums loaded w/ Barnes TSX Bullet

Rangerlab 01-04-2005 07:46 AM

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I agree that your "problem", if you want to call it that, is bullet selection. A premium bullet like a Partition, TBBC, Failsafe, etc. would probably give you more of the pass throughs you are looking for. I really don't think it has much to do with the caliber.

bigbulls 01-04-2005 12:09 PM

RE: 270 ?
 
Like the rest, I don't see that you are having a problem at all. Two deer dead on the spot with less meat damage than you had with the 30-06. Am I missing something here?

Core lokts certainly are not the "problem". They, obviously, will kill deer dead as anything out there. They have been doing it longer than and have probably accounted for more dead deer than just about any other bullet out there today.

Ask many of the experts and they will tell you that you are getting perfect bullet performance. Many do not want the bullet to exit. Instead they prefer the bullet to use 100% of its energy inside the animal and stop just under the skin on the far side.

But Rangerlab is right if you want a pass thry a Barnes, or failsafe will certainly give it to you. Probably will pass thru two or three deer.;)

James B 01-04-2005 02:08 PM

RE: 270 ?
 
Pretty unusuall performance for a 270. I have hardly ever seen a bullet not pass through a deer. I quess the shoulder hit could explain it. Expansion will limit penetration.

Leafrivermac 01-04-2005 03:40 PM

RE: 270 ?
 
Some good replies. I guess what I'm wondering is what will happen if the yards get kicked up to 150 and I go for the shoulder?

bigbulls 01-04-2005 03:47 PM

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Same thing..... A dead deer.

And at 200 ... 300 ... 400....................

Actually you may have better luck getting a pass thru at a bit longer distance, 200 yards or so, because the velocity will be lower and create much less mushrooming and weight loss for less resistance and more retained energy while traveling through the animal than up close and personal.

losthwy 01-04-2005 03:53 PM

RE: 270 ?
 
The 270 is a fine caliber I to would recommend going to another bullet like the Barnes, or FailSafe.

Leafrivermac 01-04-2005 04:08 PM

RE: 270 ?
 
Thanks a lot guys, lot's o good info here !!:D

PABuck_HNTR 01-04-2005 05:14 PM

RE: 270 ?
 

Core lokts certainly are not the "problem".
I have to agree, I've used core lokts for years and never had any problems with them. I don't understand why alot of guys think you need premium 25.00 to 30.00 a box ammo for whitetails. Dead is dead!

frizzellr 01-04-2005 06:24 PM

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I don't understand why alot of guys think you need premium 25.00 to 30.00 a box ammo for whitetails. Dead is dead!
Too many bad experiences with Remington CoreLokts. I didn't say anything about a premium bullet, just something else besides Remington's junk.

bronko22000 01-04-2005 08:28 PM

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Leafriver, Better listen to bigbull. He is right on the money. I've taken plenty of deer, both whitetails and mulies with my .270. Most shots have been under 100 yds., a couple at 300-350 and just this past year, a 4x4 mulie at a ranged 438 yds. I shoot 130 gr. Nosler Ballistic tips over 55 gr of IMR4350. This load has served me well for about 25 years in this rifle.
As far a shot placement, the way I taught my son, was to picture a basketball seting in a deer's chest, its center just behind the front legs/shoulder. Your aiming point should be in the lower half of the ball in the verticle center. This image hasn't failed me in 40 years of hunting.

brother hal 01-04-2005 09:15 PM

RE: 270 ?
 
I have used a 270 as my primary rifle for many years. This year I zeroed my rifle using the Ultra Core-Lokts, their new bonded core-lokt bullet. I shot 7 deer here on the farm. All one shot kills and all complete pass-thrus. You might want to try some different cartridge/bullet combos from Rem and other manufacturers, but it sound to me as those the core-lokts you now use are doing a fine job.

skeeter 7MM 01-05-2005 11:04 AM

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I don't understand why alot of guys think you need premium 25.00 to 30.00 a box ammo for whitetails.
Just because they are whitetails doesn't mean we all have to agree using the plain jane bullets is best either. I mean really what ever floats your canoe and works then go for it. Everybody is different and have their own evaluation process on determining which equipment or this case bullet to use. However when a question or concern is asked of this wide group of individuals you should expect and accept the fact people will give opinions that say switch to a bullet that is constructed for the purpose or outcome asked! So yes premium bullets will always be suggested and many don't consider a few extra dollars in bullets to be a large expense when considering the time, effort and money we may put forth each year to hunt game.

As to the results I agree where is the problem? 2 dead deer, dropped in their tracks and bullet went where you intented it to go! I mean what would have been the difference with 2 holes vs 1 in these cases?? I would expect it in the given circumstances to yield no better results. Like mentioned if you want a more a solid constructed bullet design to retain weight look to the likes of a barnes, failsafe, partition, etc.

SquirrleBurger46 02-06-2005 10:41 AM

RE: 270 ?
 
i use the win supreme accutip bullets they are awsome!

SquirrleBurger46 02-06-2005 10:42 AM

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people i need 6 people to join my hunting copetition, spead the word!

Ruger-Redhawk 02-06-2005 11:30 AM

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Everybody expects different performance from bullets.Your's are doing what they were designed to do.I read allot of complaints about the CoreLokts.I've been using them for quite awhile. In my rifle they shoot good.Last year using my 270 Win I shot what turned out to be a knot head instead of a doe I thought it was.Using the CoreLokts it dropped instantly.When dressing it out I found the bullet. It had mushroomed out perfectly. I didn't take the time to weigh it. I would say it kept almost all it's original weight.I use 150 gr.The ammunition debate will always continue.If something works for you keep using it. I can't see spending big bucks for something the cheaper ammo will do.I've tried the Federal Premium 130 gr Ballistic Tips in my 7mmRM. My gun hated them. The Corelokts shot well.Yep ! I'm using the Corelokts in the 7mmRM just like in the 270.

Ruger Redhawk

dkhamner 02-16-2005 08:34 PM

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ORIGINAL: bronko22000
As far a shot placement, the way I taught my son, was to picture a basketball seting in a deer's chest, its center just behind the front legs/shoulder. Your aiming point should be in the lower half of the ball in the verticle center.
thats the exact thing my dad told me about 20 years ago. works great for me as well.

Slamfire 02-17-2005 12:17 AM

RE: 270 ?
 
When I started shootin' Corelokts they looked just like a cross seciton of the Ultra Corelokts do today, although the jacket wasn't as thick. I don't understand how they cheapened the design as much as they did and still keep class a performance. If you just have to shoot shoulders, shoot the one on the other side of the deer. The heart and lungs are the best target. Them deer won't run 30 years, and if you can't trail 'em that far maybe you oughta give up huntin'.

Georgetownboys 02-17-2005 07:11 AM

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I've been using a Hornady 130Gr balistic tip boat tail in my .270. I get great penetration and pass through. I even got a double pass thorugh with it this year on a double pig shot, caught the first one through the neck and the second a double lung. Took a few minutes to get them lined up.:D

Rebel Hog 02-25-2005 11:26 AM

RE: 270 ?
 

ORIGINAL: Virginia7


.....I've killed two good size bucks. I shot both broad side shoulder, one at 80 yds and the other at just less than a hundred. Both dear dropped on the spot......
So, what's the problem? I guess you just expected more damage, and wanted an exit
wound? Are you making a fair comparison with results you had from the 30-06? What
bullet/load did you use in the '06? What range were the hits using the '06? Where were the hits with the '06?
Given both deer dropped "on the spot" when using the 270Win., you should be pleased.
If you want more penetration I'd suggest you look to a "stouter" bullet/load - try the
150gr. Core-Lokts or Core-Lokt Ultras. Federal loads a 150gr. using the Nosler partition
bullet, and a 140gr. using the Trophy Bonded bullets.
DITTO....Virginia7....10-4 good buddy!!


KEEP ON ROOTING!!!

Rebel Hog 02-25-2005 11:38 AM

RE: 270 ?
 

ORIGINAL: Ruger-Redhawk

Everybody expects different performance from bullets.Your's are doing what they were designed to do.I read allot of complaints about the CoreLokts.I've been using them for quite awhile. In my rifle they shoot good.Last year using my 270 Win I shot what turned out to be a knot head instead of a doe I thought it was.Using the CoreLokts it dropped instantly.When dressing it out I found the bullet. It had mushroomed out perfectly. I didn't take the time to weigh it. I would say it kept almost all it's original weight.I use 150 gr.The ammunition debate will always continue.If something works for you keep using it. I can't see spending big bucks for something the cheaper ammo will do.I've tried the Federal Premium 130 gr Ballistic Tips in my 7mmRM. My gun hated them. The Corelokts shot well.Yep ! I'm using the Corelokts in the 7mmRM just like in the 270.

Ruger Redhawk

DITTO Ruger-Redhawk!......10-4 good buddy.

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Rebel Hog 02-25-2005 11:45 AM

RE: 270 ?
 

ORIGINAL: Georgetownboys

I've been using a Hornady 130Gr balistic tip boat tail in my .270. I get great penetration and pass through. I even got a double pass thorugh with it this year on a double pig shot, caught the first one through the neck and the second a double lung. Took a few minutes to get them lined up.:D

Did that once in Georgia.....what a thrill!.....good shooting Georgetownboys!!


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Rebel Hog 02-25-2005 11:49 AM

RE: 270 ?
 

ORIGINAL: Slamfire

When I started shootin' Corelokts they looked just like a cross seciton of the Ultra Corelokts do today, although the jacket wasn't as thick. I don't understand how they cheapened the design as much as they did and still keep class a performance. If you just have to shoot shoulders, shoot the one on the other side of the deer. The heart and lungs are the best target. Them deer won't run 30 years, and if you can't trail 'em that far maybe you oughta give up huntin'.

GREAT REPLY......Slamfire!......great reply indeed. Could not have said it better.


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