looking at getting a rifle
12-03-2004, 09:17 AM
#13
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 618
RE: looking at getting a rifle
For what you described you'd be using the gun for, I think a .30-06 would be ideal. I was recently shopping for one myself, and ended up with a Tikka T3, but I like the Remington 700 BDL/CDL rifles a lot, and the Browning A-bolt but I think they are way overpriced. It's your decision, so go to a gunshop and pick them all up, see what you like.
12-03-2004, 09:31 AM
#14
RE: looking at getting a rifle
Another classic to consider among the .30 cal range..... The old standby, ageless, lever action 30-30. It is cheaper than a 30-06, and has been around since the beginning of firearms. Ammo is very cheap priced too.
Just my .02
Butch A.
Just my .02
Butch A.
12-03-2004, 09:59 AM
#15
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Rocky Mountains, Colorado
Posts: 1,964
RE: looking at getting a rifle
aarsudstrike, bearing in mind your original criteria....
IMHO, if one is just putting together his first set of long guns, then what is needed is VERSATILITY to allow the hunter to vary across a wide range of conditions, ranges, and game. A 30-30 while a fair "brush gun" (especially for deer) is largely duplicated by your "already acquired" rifled mossberg slug gun; therefore you would be "doubling up" on the "brush hunting" function instead of "spreading out" in a fashion that will let you rather quickly hunt anywhere in the lower 48.
The acquisition of a single 30-06 (or very, very close equivalent) as your first high power centerfire will give you a w-i-d-e range of versatility for game and firepower possibilites.
The acquisition of a 30-30 as your first modest power centerfire will essentially restrict you to modest range modest size game, it has about the same power level and ballistics as the SKS --- not a good scenario for the elk hunting you mentioned.
aarsudstrike, I would recommend that you wait on the 30-30 and pick it up later as the "niche gun" that it is, only after you have "filled out" the basic "anchors" of your long gun rack (and when that time comes you may want to look at a 45-70 Marlin Guide Gun instead).
IMHO, a 22LR, a 30-06, and a 12 gauge is a superb set of long guns to start ones hunting career with, especially if you are wanting to "range about the country" a bit (especially "out west or up north" where the horizons REALLY open up and ranges can increase) for varying forms of big game (especially the ones larger than deer). For that you need some reach and some power without getting something that will kick you silly for your first high-power centerfire -- a 30-06 or very, very close equivalent does just that and is quite managable for most men.
Exciting times for you.... you are about to be "on your way"....
Good Luck and Good Hunting,
EKM
"....im lookin at getting a rifle in the 30-06 range for deer, elk, and maybe some other game later on down the line...."
"....i already have a shotgun mossberg 835 with rifled barrell and shot barrell...."
The acquisition of a single 30-06 (or very, very close equivalent) as your first high power centerfire will give you a w-i-d-e range of versatility for game and firepower possibilites.
The acquisition of a 30-30 as your first modest power centerfire will essentially restrict you to modest range modest size game, it has about the same power level and ballistics as the SKS --- not a good scenario for the elk hunting you mentioned.
aarsudstrike, I would recommend that you wait on the 30-30 and pick it up later as the "niche gun" that it is, only after you have "filled out" the basic "anchors" of your long gun rack (and when that time comes you may want to look at a 45-70 Marlin Guide Gun instead).
IMHO, a 22LR, a 30-06, and a 12 gauge is a superb set of long guns to start ones hunting career with, especially if you are wanting to "range about the country" a bit (especially "out west or up north" where the horizons REALLY open up and ranges can increase) for varying forms of big game (especially the ones larger than deer). For that you need some reach and some power without getting something that will kick you silly for your first high-power centerfire -- a 30-06 or very, very close equivalent does just that and is quite managable for most men.
Exciting times for you.... you are about to be "on your way"....
Good Luck and Good Hunting,
EKM
12-03-2004, 08:21 PM
#16
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 6
RE: looking at getting a rifle
hahah wow thanks for all the help guys yea ive used my dads guns for long enough i feel that it is time to break out on my own and get a set that i will enjoy as much as he does. i have gone to many gone shops and checked out most of the 30-06 range. as of now im down to a howa, savage, or a ruger(the only action and saftey combos i really liked) not sure yet. im gonna go to the gun show tomorrow and see what i can find.
thanks tyler
p.s. My grandparents have land in iowa so i know what it is like to hunt with a shot gun and what the limits of a slug gun are. im just ready to expand into bigger game. as others have said "its not the size of the rack or the meat that was lost its the experience" which i truely live by.
thanks tyler
p.s. My grandparents have land in iowa so i know what it is like to hunt with a shot gun and what the limits of a slug gun are. im just ready to expand into bigger game. as others have said "its not the size of the rack or the meat that was lost its the experience" which i truely live by.
12-04-2004, 05:10 PM
#17
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 6
RE: looking at getting a rifle
well i got my rifle today havent been able to sight it in it got too dark but its a remington model 700 30-06 with a bushnell 3x-9x40 banner scope. i just hope that i like it i payed $400 for it and it is in excellent condition so im happy 
12-04-2004, 05:29 PM
#18
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Rocky Mountains, Colorado
Posts: 1,964
RE: looking at getting a rifle
You the man!
I'm assuming things will go just fine for you at the range.
Depending on your build the stock may or may not be the right lenght for you, if it is too short this can cause "felt recoil" to run higher than it should. Take along a pair of leather gloves and if you suspect the stock may be short for you (thumb close to your nose and/or scope in your face) then put the gloves between the butt of the rifle and your shoulder.
If it is "brand new" and "never been fired" you may want to check into a "break in" procedure --- you only get one chance to do it in a guns life (unless you rebarrel). No big deal otherwise.
EKM
I'm assuming things will go just fine for you at the range.
Depending on your build the stock may or may not be the right lenght for you, if it is too short this can cause "felt recoil" to run higher than it should. Take along a pair of leather gloves and if you suspect the stock may be short for you (thumb close to your nose and/or scope in your face) then put the gloves between the butt of the rifle and your shoulder.
If it is "brand new" and "never been fired" you may want to check into a "break in" procedure --- you only get one chance to do it in a guns life (unless you rebarrel). No big deal otherwise.
EKM
12-04-2004, 07:07 PM
#19
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Southern California
Posts: 323
RE: looking at getting a rifle
ORIGINAL: aarsudstrike
well i got my rifle today havent been able to sight it in it got too dark but its a remington model 700 30-06 with a bushnell 3x-9x40 banner scope. i just hope that i like it i payed $400 for it and it is in excellent condition so im happy
well i got my rifle today havent been able to sight it in it got too dark but its a remington model 700 30-06 with a bushnell 3x-9x40 banner scope. i just hope that i like it i payed $400 for it and it is in excellent condition so im happy
Good luck, and HAVE FUN!