Which .270 to buy?????
 

I am going to buy a .270 but do not know what brand. I want a .270 with a nice scope for under $500. I am looking at the Remington 700 BDL. What do you all think of this gun and what other brands and models are good for a .270???
Thanks

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The .270Win. has been a proven performer since around 1935. Few will argue with the fact that most big game can be taken cleanly with a .270Win. Jack O'Connor wrote for years about traveling around the world and successfully hunting with rifles chambered for .270Win. Ammo can be found nearly universally. Several fine factory cartridges are marketed for that round. The options for hand loaders are nearly infinite. That said, the .270Weatherby produces a bit more on the upper end of the .270 bullet's power band and the by many reports, the .270WSM outshines the parent cartridge. So, bottom line, get any of those three and you will likely be happy with the performance. My vote would still go with the old standby, .270Win.
Given your price limit, I like the Winchester Model 70 and the Tikka White Tail Hunter. Others will like different brands. Most any rifle currently chambered for .270Win will get the job done.
The .270Win uses a .277 bullet. It is not by accident that several cartridges use the .284 bullet (7mm). Before you buy, look at all of those cartridges. Many 7mm cartridges offer more versatility then does the .270. Most impressive to me, has been the 7mmWSM. A great cartridge in a short package.

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I am farely new to this and am confused about the cartridge thing. Can u explain it for me?? I am probably going to buy either the Remignton 700 BDl, some kind of Winchester, or the Weatherby. What model is the best for the Winchester with my price range?
Thanks

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Let me check, Hudee. You have $500 max for both rifle and scope?

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Yes that is true.

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Don't know how easy it would be to get both a scope and rifle for that money; certainly I don't see any new Rem BDL's for that price. You may find a Remington 700 ADL in 270 under $500, especially at chain stores. (I'm not knocking chain stores, either.) The advantage to the ADL is that it comes with iron sights, so you could get into shooting while checking out scopes. I haven't seen any new Winchester M70's under 500, but maybe I am looking at the wrong places. Both the ADL and BDL use the strong 700 action.

Good luck.

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Have you checked at Academy, Carters Country, or Wal MArt because I am going to check there. Would Academy and Wal Mart's prices be about the cheapest around???? What scope would you recommend for the BDL?

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The Savage Package rifle is being discounted for under $500. Comes with Accutrigger, bore sighted 3-9x40 scope and hard case. You would not go wrong with that deal. Three calibers in which this package is offered that I would recommend. 7mmWSM, .270Win and .270WSM. Dunno if WalMart has that Savage package, but I have seen same advertised.
Another way to go, would be to get on GunsAmerica and pick up a used rifle/scope outfit. I recently bought, off GunsAmerica, a Tikka White Tail Hunter in 7mmRemMag, for $230. The rifle appeared un-used and shoots great.
The .270Win is a long action cartridge, meaning that the receiver on the rifle needs to be long enough to feed and eject that long cartridge. The .270WSM with very similar ballistics, comes in a short action rifle. The 7mmWSM, which is ballistically superior to either .270, is also in a short action.
Best bet is go to a retail outlet, where you can handle the rifles. Even if you see what you want on GunsAmerica, go first to a gun store and look at that model before you buy.
If you are not familiar with GunsAmerica, go a simple search on the Net and that site should pop up!

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Thanks for that site cause I did not know about it but i am probably going to buy a new one. Do u know anything about Academy or Wal-Marts prices?????

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I'm not familiar with Academy, but it is usually very difficult to beat Walmart's prices on new rifles. Before California Walmarts were forced to quit selling guns they would usually have Winchesters, Weatherbys, Rugers and Remingtons for around $400 or so. These were the lower end models with synthetic stocks, which are quite satisfactory for a field gun. Our local sporting goods stores often advertise Savages with scopes for about that price also, and the new Remngton 710 can be had with scope for about that price also. The Remington 710 is a somewhat controversial gun due to many design and manufacturing innovations intended to keep the price down. In other words, there are those who will look down their nose at you if you have one. I am not partial to too much plastic in a gun myself but then that's just my opinion; they're worth a look, then you can make up your own mind.

The suggestion of looking for a used rifle & scope combo is not a bad one at all, however, especially in your price range. You might look around at the used deals before you buy; new rifles will always be available, but if you find a used one that meets your needs you may be very glad that you did.

Just be careful when buying a new rifle to look it over for any obvious flaws. Here's a link to a site you ay find useful, with tips on what to look for in a used rifle. Good luck!

http://www.chuckhawks.com/used_rifle.htm

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Used rifles are usually a pretty good deal, but be careful this close to hunting season. Pawnshops especially will try to price gouge. I noticed the used racks at my local shops are looking a bit bare. For your price range it is going to be very hard to beat a Savage pakage rifle. They are tough, reliable and shoot well. You can always change the glass later if it is not to your liking. I still have a scope from a package gun that is sitting on top of a 22 WMR and still going strong.

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I am probably going to buy a need combo just because of trust and because I like new things versus used things. Does anybody know how much a Remington 700 .270 will cost at Wal Mart?

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If I am reading their website correctly, it is a little over $385. Feel free to check it out. You can pull up all their stuff. Don't skip looking at Savage rifles, though. I just have not heard of any problems with them, and many shooters like the new trigger.

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The one i want which is the BDL is $546 or so. The youth one is $385.

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Yup. The BDL is pricy for the added looks. Well, I don't think I can come up with a good rifle & glass combo tonite for $500. I see Walmart has the Winchester super shadow is synthetic stock, 270 wsm for a little over $426. Serious screamer, that cartridge is. Doubt you would be dissappointed in it, but that leaves you without sights. I'll ponder....

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If you have already made up your mind as to what you want, but can't get it within your budget there isn't much any of us can do for you.

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As frizzellr said, if you have picked out a rifle you can't afford then you better save your pennies.

I'd agree with others in that I'd look for a decent used rifle. Our local shops have a pile of used Ruger 77s and Remington 700s in 270 right now. Best selection I have seen in years. Most are running $350-$450 with a scope. Shop owners have said that guys are trading for the new whizz whammo wsms.

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If you want to hunt this year and if you must stick to your stated limit of $500 with scope mounted, then you need to forget the Rem 700BDL! Unless, again as stated, you decide to go with a used firearm/scope combo, at which point the field is wide open when you have $500 burning in your pocket. You have reached an impasse, in terms of getting suggestions, because you return to a rifle that cost beyond your limit, after mounts, rings and scope! Add to that the fact that if you go "cheap" on mounts, rings and scope, you are defeating the purpose of buying a higher quality rifle! Since you've asked, my opinion would be to go cheap on the rifle and get high quality mounts, rings and scope. By doing that, you can stay within your $500 limit. As I see it, there is no other way to meet your price limit and end up with a decent rifle/scope rig! The Savage line has built a great rep for accuracy and serviceability. The ONLY thing that you give up with Savage, is "pretty"! You can buy the low cost Savage model of your choice and still have around $200 left to buy a scope rig. In a fixed power scope, you can come in right at $200 with good steel mounts and rings. OR, buy a "package" rifle rig, which will be mounted with an inexpensive scope rig, and figure on using the inexpensive scope and mounts for a year or two, before moving up to a quality scope and mounts. If, on the other hand, you go with a quality scope, it can be kept, if you later sell the rifle, and moved to the new rifle. So many options, so little time! <8^) Good luck.

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I guess I will put in my 2 cents also. As everyone has stated, a 700BDL is out of your price range. I think you will be hard pressed to find a used one for under $400 that is in good shape. I believe someone else stated to get a really good scope and a lower priced rifle. I totally agree. For years I bought lower end scopes and then I finally bit the bullet and tried a Leupold. OMG! What a difference! I would really incourage you to get a rifle like a Savage or a used rifle in good condition and spend the money on your scope. You can find used rifles at GunsAmerica or GunBroker.com. Remember that you will have to factor in shipping, insurance and transfer fees on top of the purchase price. I know Savage has some combo deals and I also saw a Combo from Howa for around $500. The last thing to consider with your $500 maximum is ammo. You will have to buy several different brands of ammo to find which one shoots best from you rifle. You can easily spend another $100 doing this.
As far as calibers go, ammo for the good 'ol .270 can be found almost everywhere and is cheap. The .270 Weatherby is going to very expensive to feed camparitively speaking. The .270WSM is a newer cartridge but is gaining popularity. It outperforms the .270Win and is about even with the Weatherby. You can look at the 7mm's also. Only a slightly larger bullet but much better performance. You can buy heavier grain factory loads and it has better trajectory. The 7mmWSM doesn't really have a performance advantage over the 7mmRem Mag but it is a shorter case and should cycle faster for a follow up shot. A 7mm would be a better choice if you were giong after anything larger than a whitetail.

Try not to have tunnel vision for a 700BDL in .270Win. There are serveral different rifles in different cartridges that will perform very well. If your heart is set on the BDL, save your money this year until you can afford one. Don't skimp on the scope. You will only kick yourself later.

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I agree with G2. The way that barrels are being turned out these days, most any rifle will shoot well. Figure on spending around half of your $500 budget on scope, mount and rings. Do not skimp on those items.
If you go with .270cal, the .270Win will be the least expensive to shoot. You wil have lots of options, in terms of bullet weight and manufacturer to try in your new rifle. But again, like G2 said, if you intend to go after anything bigger then deer, look at the 7mm cartridges.