223 for deer?
07-23-2004, 12:36 PM
#31
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Rocky Mountains, Colorado
Posts: 1,964
RE: 223 for deer?
The point is, alot of folks can't shoot a larger rifle. So why must they shoot a gun that will kick them silly and affect their shooting due to flinching and such, when they can comfortably shoot a small calibre rifle with deadly accuracy? I have a friend who lives in British Columbia, (where it is legal) and she is looking for a .223 to hunt deer. No, she can't shoot a .243 very well. She is not a big girl, and just the thought of a larger gun makes her flinch.
".. .. .. just the thought of a larger gun makers her flinch .. .. .."
Chuckle, thanks, I needed some humor to start off my day.
Is she of legal age to buy a rifle yet? Sounds like an operator/training problem.
223 - 4 lbs
243 - 9 lbs
270 - 20 lbs
07-23-2004, 03:42 PM
#32
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Posts: 815
RE: 223 for deer?
NOT BIG ENOUGH. PERIOD! a .17 can drop a deer, but its not ethical. There is higher chance of wounding one w/ a 223. my grand dad always used a .22rimfire, and put it between the ear and eye, but he also never shot if the angle ect.. wasnt there, times have changed w/ fewer opportunities,time, more preasure ect..
07-23-2004, 04:25 PM
#33
Typical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: central Ky
Posts: 601
RE: 223 for deer?
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so I'm not going to "down" anyone for their choice of caliber. For me, I wouldn't hunt deer with anything less than the 243 and here's the my "take" on this subject. Not all shots on deer are a perfect broad-side shots and not all deer hunters are perfect shots. With that said, taking a shot that accidentally missed the "boiler room" with a 223 or a 30-06, your chances of recovering a deer with the 06 are much higher. Just my .02
07-23-2004, 08:25 PM
#34
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Posts: 127
RE: 223 for deer?
I've seen deer killed with a .22lr (by a poacher as it is not legal to do so here) but I sure wouldn't want to try it. I like the idea of a larger bullet, I'd take a handgun cartridge chambered in a rifle over a .223, but that is my opinion. I also had a friend that swore by his .22-250 for deer.
There must be a dozen threads on deer with a .223 in the last year...
There must be a dozen threads on deer with a .223 in the last year...
07-23-2004, 11:14 PM
#35
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: MD
Posts: 4,572
RE: 223 for deer?
ok, everybody and his brother got in on this one, so why should i be left out!! elkmaster,oldelk,deerslayer,bigcountry,vapodog,pha roah2,eldeguello,
and even Briman got to add his little french guy waving the surrender flag, so why shouldnt mossy get to bump his post number up on this significantly over debated subject!!! Ok here it goes, I shoot on average 3 deer a year with a Bow which I practice making the perfect vital shot in the perfect area, only when the deer is in the perfect place, same rules apply here, if you practice shooting deer with a 223 making perfect shots, then go for it, BUT you MUST be ready to pass up some shots on some nice deer that you may be able to take if you were carring the 270,7mm, 300win mag.
(Does this mean I can start carrying my preban AR-15 with 30 rnd mag. and bayonet in the wood with me???) hey its a .223!!!
and even Briman got to add his little french guy waving the surrender flag, so why shouldnt mossy get to bump his post number up on this significantly over debated subject!!! Ok here it goes, I shoot on average 3 deer a year with a Bow which I practice making the perfect vital shot in the perfect area, only when the deer is in the perfect place, same rules apply here, if you practice shooting deer with a 223 making perfect shots, then go for it, BUT you MUST be ready to pass up some shots on some nice deer that you may be able to take if you were carring the 270,7mm, 300win mag.
(Does this mean I can start carrying my preban AR-15 with 30 rnd mag. and bayonet in the wood with me???) hey its a .223!!!
07-24-2004, 09:35 AM
#36
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Texas - BUT NOW in Madison County, NY
Posts: 6,270
RE: 223 for deer?
(Does this mean I can start carrying my preban AR-15 with 30 rnd mag. and bayonet in the wood with me???) hey its a .223!!!
07-24-2004, 12:37 PM
#37
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: MD
Posts: 4,572
RE: 223 for deer?
yeah but eldeguello, what if i miss with the first 29 shots, and hes still runnin', or better yet what if im just puchin holes with the FMJ's im shootin? The nice thing about a semi is you can give em a volley bang bang bang bang bang bang bang..........
(I'm just kidding fellas dont wanna start another thread on how bad a shot, or unethical Mossy is!!) lol
(I'm just kidding fellas dont wanna start another thread on how bad a shot, or unethical Mossy is!!) lol
07-24-2004, 04:40 PM
#38
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Port Neches, Texas
Posts: 5,514
RE: 223 for deer?
Mossy, as a bow hunter, you should know that there is a big difference in the way a bullet kills, and how a broadhead kills! Any of the .22's are just too poor of a bullet for deer hunting! In the hands of a very well practiced hunter, and under ideal conditions, yes, the .22's will work! The second part of my last sentence is the real key!
"Ideal!"
Ideal conditions rarely exist in real world hunting! With dozens of better calibers available, there is just no good reason to use any of the .22's, let alone recommending them to people whose marksmanship abilities you know nothing of!
"Ideal!"
Ideal conditions rarely exist in real world hunting! With dozens of better calibers available, there is just no good reason to use any of the .22's, let alone recommending them to people whose marksmanship abilities you know nothing of!
07-24-2004, 04:48 PM
#39
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Pulaskiville
Posts: 3,533
RE: 223 for deer?
Mossy...How many rifle hunters get to hunt undisturbed deer like bow hunters?
Nearly 100% of the deer I've killed with my bow I could have killed with a 22lr to the brain.
Is this the same thing? I think not.
Nearly 100% of the deer I've killed with my bow I could have killed with a 22lr to the brain.
Is this the same thing? I think not.
07-24-2004, 05:30 PM
#40
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: MD
Posts: 4,572
RE: 223 for deer?
ok guys, i was just trying to throw my .02 in on this subject, Im glad they didnt ask our opinions on abortion, this thread would be 300 pages long, everybody has their own opinion, so lets just agree to disagree, I was merely trying to pass my opinon along with a little humor. 