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Hoopy 07-05-2004 08:04 PM

Safety first (pics)
 
So recently I was cleaning out my woods, and headed over to the target area.
At 350 yds, this is the trees behind my target.
Using 180 grain bullets from my .300 Winchester.
Remmember always KNOW what is beyond your target.

Aught Six 07-06-2004 07:57 AM

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What are your plans to remedy this problem?

oldelkhunter 07-06-2004 08:00 AM

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I would say you need a dirt berm or a convenient hillside behind the targets.

Vesi 07-06-2004 09:02 AM

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Yep, a solid sand backstop would work. A sand wall, at least a yard wide will stop a riflebullet. Clean, sharp-edge grained sand that is. The kind of sand used in concrete is perfect for the purpose and is easy to come by in the quantities you need for such a project.

I just like to add that this is something to worry about when shooting any gun, even air powered ones. Any projectile can cause damage, even small and slow travelling ones.

Pro-Line 07-06-2004 08:00 PM

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Yep...Build a hump behind your target. Immediately!

That could have been a person you never knew was in the same county.

doubleA 07-06-2004 08:12 PM

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Remmember always KNOW what is beyond your target.
Apparently you did not!

Like the others have said, you need to be shooting into some type of berm....... top soil, sandy loam, clay, sand anyone will do.

doubleA

Hoopy 07-07-2004 03:05 AM

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Actually I do know what is behind my target, and this tree is less then 10 feet from my targets.
I guess if I ASS-ume (get it) that you guys know my land better then I, you'd know what is behind my targets, as in land, berms and what have you.
But alas as none of you do know what my land looks like and how it is laid out, then you will continue to ASS-ume (get it) various crap you make up in your mind to make it seem like you need a reason to post total bull****.
Anything else...

Hoopy 07-07-2004 03:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: doubleA


Remmember always KNOW what is beyond your target.
Apparently you did not!

Like the others have said, you need to be shooting into some type of berm....... top soil, sandy loam, clay, sand anyone will do.

doubleA
Just how the hell do you think you know what Im shooting into. Are you just ASS uming I dont?

Hoopy 07-07-2004 03:06 AM

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Do you know what is on my land, do you know if I have a "hump" or not? Let me guess, you are ASS uming too.

Hoopy 07-07-2004 03:06 AM

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Yes and you being from Finland, you REALLY know what my land is laid out like, I guess you dont ASS ume anything, you already know.

Hoopy 07-07-2004 03:07 AM

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And you know that I dont have any becuase?
Let me guess, another person who ASS umes crap...

Hoopy 07-07-2004 03:08 AM

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What problem?
Every stupid post starts with an ASS umption

Vesi 07-07-2004 09:35 AM

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Excuse me, I am sorry you feel the need to respond in the way you did. No, I don't know anything about your land, but I do understand ballistics. Projectiles aren't influenced by nationalities btw.

I responded to your post because I feel this safety issue is often neglegted, I didn't say YOU are doing anything wrong in this, it was meant as some add-on info. I didn't post it to piss you off or anything.

eldeguello 07-07-2004 09:53 AM

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Every stupid post starts with an ASS umption
Well, Hoppie, I didn't ASS-U!! ME!! (get it??) anything about your land, etc. But we all HOOP (get it??) that you have a "hump" around there somewhere. A Hoopy-hump, hopefully!!


Pro-Line 07-07-2004 10:01 AM

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Little touchy, Hoop? LOL It looked to me as if your post said that the tree was 350yds beyond your target. Sorry...I guess that's not what you meant, and I misunderstood your post.

You titled your post, "Safety First". Just figgered that was trying to show that bullets go a long way after they go through a target.

BTW...What's keeping those bullets from ricocheting off that tree and going elsewhere?

Just "ASS"ing "U" a question from "ME". LOL

bigcountry 07-07-2004 10:37 AM

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I understand Hoop your fustration. You go on here and just try to liven up the place and show what can happen if a bad situation existed with an interesting post. Maybe it does, maybe it don't. And then get stupid posts telling you what you already know. I never understood this either when I see people post on forums. Just have to breath and realize there is alot of people that likes to echo what someone else has said. And remember its just the internet.

RustyOlRanger4x4 07-07-2004 10:46 AM

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i tried something like that a few years back i just wanted to see what would happen so i shot a pine tree that looks to be the same size as your tree from 30yds. with a 50cal muzzle loader and 100gr. or pyrodex and it just about blew the tree in half i was truley amazed at what it did and it taught me a lesson too

oldelkhunter 07-07-2004 11:14 AM

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Listen pal if your blasting trees behind your so-called berm or whatever then 2 things are the cause a) the berm doesn't exist b) it is not of sufficient size height or depth or both . Anyone that shoots firearms knows what destructive power they hold and if they don't maybe they need not own a firearm. You come on here and post pictures of trees that were hit behind your shooting area and we are supposed to believe that you have something built to prevent this. BTW a local shooting range closed down because neighbors were complaining about bullets whining over their homes. There was no ass-umption here the berms were not high enough and the guy who owned it never repaired them as a matter of fact the only thing separating the range from a busy bifurcated highway was a small patch of trees, surprised someones car was never picked off.. In your case I would put in a berm or fix whatever "Berm" you have because its not working.

oldelkhunter 07-07-2004 11:17 AM

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BTW please post your hunting plans in advance here so I can be at least 1 state away when you start wailing away with your 300. Thanks

bigcountry 07-07-2004 11:29 AM

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Come on oldelk, the guy just came on here posting an interesting post. I don't think he asked for everyone to put on there range officers hat. Or for a dad. Shooting is dangerous. Getting in my car is dangerous. You have to admit, people do alot of assuming on this board. They assume things about a shooter. They assume they are better shot. Or assume they have more experience than the original poster. Sooner or later, you figure out who knows something. Things have been slow in this page. I welcome pictures of explosions and things of interest as it pertains to guns.

oldelkhunter 07-07-2004 11:42 AM

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So recently I was cleaning out my woods, and headed over to the target area.
At 350 yds, this is the trees behind my target.
Using 180 grain bullets from my .300 Winchester.
Remmember always KNOW what is beyond your target.
BC what am I supposed to think after reading this statement. If you have trees shot up like this 350 yards behind your target area you need to fix your backstop. I think that would be NRA 101 .My buddies and I have a 200 yard range at our deercamp in Alabama..There is no one that lives within at least 1 mile from where the backstop resides. We put up a berm and actually built a welded bullet trap which was put in place. if we had not done we could have killed some innocent racoon , coyote or trespasser with a richochet. You know what would have happened had it been a trespasser . We would have lost everything in a lawsuit.

bigcountry 07-07-2004 12:28 PM

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BC what am I supposed to think after reading this statement.
I don't know, maybe that the guy does have some sort of stop beyond those trees, and is just trying to show those, less experienced shooters the damage it can cause. Maybe there is a hill beyond those trees. I don't know. Just before people comes on here, acting like they are range officers, they should have asked him first. I don't know the guy, but from his post's subject of safety first, seems he has an idea. Probably better then alot of posters. Maybe not.

Mr. Longbeard 07-07-2004 08:23 PM

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Call me crazy but what if one of those 300 mag bullet decides to deflect off that Chestnut oak tree and go 1/2 mile to the left or right????;)

You just might want to put the back stop BEHIND YOUR TARGET!!!! F STICK

doubleA 07-07-2004 09:06 PM

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Just how the hell do you think you know what Im shooting into. Are you just ASS uming I dont?
In your original post I understood it to mean that the trees were 350 yards behind the target, sorry for mistaking that!

Poopy, now in your other rants you said

Actually I do know what is behind my target, and this tree is less then 10 feet from my targets.
Since when are trees considered safe backstops? If you do have a berm, which I seriously doubt, it should be placed as close to the target frames as possible. There should not be anything between the berm and target frame. When you have hard objects such as a tree in your case, richochets are possible.

If you dont mind, why dont you take a picture with a wider view so we can see the target area and the type of backstop you are using, then we would not have to assume anything. You know the saying..a picture is worth a thousand words.

PS and speaking of pictures, try to scale your pictures down to 600-700 pixels wide instead of the 1200. It's a lot faster to downloadand user friendly.

Enquiring minds want to know, doubleA

bigcountry 07-08-2004 07:27 AM

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I would like to see some of your guys private range and property backstops. Not the public range like I go too, you private range and backstops. Therefore, we can sit here and critique you all day. I am sure I can find something to make you feel lesser than me.

oldelkhunter 07-08-2004 08:12 AM

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BC, I repeat. If I showed pictures at a site like this and said that these shot up trees 350 yards behind my "BACKSTOP" were shot by me I would expect to be criticized . No I don't shoot my guns in open woods unless I am hunting.

Pro-Line 07-08-2004 08:27 AM

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Assuming a lot about me, BC, aren't you?

My range is the most perfect in the entire world....:D

bigcountry 07-08-2004 08:32 AM

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But does it have the gravel filled rock barriers hanging up every 25yards. In case somebody fired one off accidentally with the rifle too high? Very unsafe if it doesn't.:D

bigcountry 07-08-2004 08:34 AM

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And if its perfect, it of course is in a valley with 50ft berms on both sides of the range, incase of richoet or accidental dischange to the left or right.

oldelkhunter 07-08-2004 09:29 AM

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BC I belong to a pretty nice gun club but we don't go that far but last I looked the Leyland Cypress and Pine trees behind the berms were not chewed up.:D:D:D

bigcountry 07-08-2004 09:40 AM

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I don't think its the bullets chewing up trees you got to worry about so much but the one that didn't hit anything and over the berm going to farmer Johns bedroom since you guys didn't build barriers out of 6X6 timer and gravel filled barriers. Lawsuit waiting to happen.:D:D

bigcountry 07-08-2004 09:41 AM

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We got those at my public range, you mean you don't:(

bigcountry 07-08-2004 09:42 AM

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Of course it is maryland, you have to have an ATF agent to get the gun to the range. And go back home to get the ammo without gun.:D

Ok, enough, I won't harass you guys anymore.

oldelkhunter 07-08-2004 10:01 AM

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Oh forgot to tell you there is a hillside behind the leyland cypress and pine trees as well as a couple hundered acres of wooded property

bigcountry 07-08-2004 12:40 PM

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Cool, I will meet you down there to inspect in the Winter. When is Alabama rut again. Like end of December.:D Better come out again during turkey season too to inspect the range.:D Can't blame a guy for tryin.

oldelkhunter 07-08-2004 01:40 PM

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Your welcome anytime .Alabama Rut is January and usually the end of the month..at least that's what the experts tell me.

snipehunter 07-08-2004 03:01 PM

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this is my place to shoot sorry about being sideways but you get the picture btw it is a famly owned range that more than a few of us mantain and use not a public range in any way. we put a lot of sweat into it just my .02

Mr. Longbeard 07-08-2004 07:22 PM

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I have a mountain for a back stop...

Hoopy 07-09-2004 01:21 AM

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See this thread for a satellite picture of my land My land

Pro-Line 07-09-2004 06:52 AM

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Nice map, Hoopy. How many acres is that? It looks pretty dang big!

I had a topo map (20X30) made where I work of my farm. I laminated it and I use dry erase markers to plan drives, find funnels, etc. It's worked well so far!


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