Accuracy....... Loads?.... Bedding?..... Freefloat
#1
I have been strugling with this issue for awhile now. I have gotten advice from 1shot, and a few others before.
I have been doing alot of reading on different bedding techniques. But there is not much info on how to properly freefloat a barrel and loads are alot of tedious hours at the range.
My question is what courses of action have you guys taken to get the best accuracy from a factory rifle that you can. And should wood be removed on the sides of the stock in the barrel channel, should factory pressure points be removed(one's put there purposely).
Just looking for more opinions, before I decide what to do.
My problem is that I shoot 4 position indoor competition and I expect my deer rifles to shoot as good as my target gun.
I know this isn't a logical idea, but I can't get it out of my mind. Maybe I'm being obsessive.
I have been doing alot of reading on different bedding techniques. But there is not much info on how to properly freefloat a barrel and loads are alot of tedious hours at the range.
My question is what courses of action have you guys taken to get the best accuracy from a factory rifle that you can. And should wood be removed on the sides of the stock in the barrel channel, should factory pressure points be removed(one's put there purposely).
Just looking for more opinions, before I decide what to do.
My problem is that I shoot 4 position indoor competition and I expect my deer rifles to shoot as good as my target gun.
I know this isn't a logical idea, but I can't get it out of my mind. Maybe I'm being obsessive.
#2
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Pulaskiville
I know exactly what you're saying, fight4. I used to feel the same way. I have a Rem 760 pump 270 that only shot 2" groups at 100 yards. I was frustrated as hell with the gun. I tried everything to get it better, but to no avail.
As I thought about trading the gun in on another, my father asked me an excellent question. He said, "Do you really think that deer is gonna care if you hit him an inch low in the lungs?" It made sense to me...and I still use the gun 15 yrs and many many deer later...still cranking out those sub 3" groups. LOL
Edited by - Pro-Line on 02/23/2002 14:19:00
As I thought about trading the gun in on another, my father asked me an excellent question. He said, "Do you really think that deer is gonna care if you hit him an inch low in the lungs?" It made sense to me...and I still use the gun 15 yrs and many many deer later...still cranking out those sub 3" groups. LOL
Edited by - Pro-Line on 02/23/2002 14:19:00
#3
I know what your saying! I shot my biggest buck ever with that rifle the first year I had it.
The deer didn't seem know the difference in 1 1/2 inches. It's just me!<img src=icon_smile_clown.gif border=0 align=middle>
The deer didn't seem know the difference in 1 1/2 inches. It's just me!<img src=icon_smile_clown.gif border=0 align=middle>
#4
Typical Buck
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: manassas va USA
Fight, man could i be overly windy on this topic! I am very obsessive when it comes to shooting groups weather it be a target gun or a deer gun. If it dont shoot,,i dont own it! but that have been said, im not sure what kinda rifle yer shootin but i'll tell ya my obsessions real quick. i shoot rem 700's all bdl ss. when i bring em home i take em outta the box, take the action/barrel out of the stock, commence filing the front pressure point down until a 1 dollar bill slides all the way to the back of the barrel once the action/barrel has been installed. Then i commence to makin the trigger snap at about 4lbs for the hunting rifles. Thus far (crossin fingers) thats all i've had to do to get these guns to shoot 1" groups at 100 yds. Good luck with your guns & keep striving fer that 5 shot 1 hole group
Mike
Mike
#7
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Fayetteville AR. USA
F4YG,
After fooling around with rifles for some time now. I have found that sporter barrel rifles usually shoot better with a pressure point near the end of the stock. But I have run into situations where a certain bullet will not shoot with a pressure point. I try to set up a rifle for what I'm going to shoot through it the majority of the time. On target rifles I usually free float barrel execpt for the first inch and half past the recoil lug.
Back to the pressure point method. I usually start out with the barrel channel with no pressure point. I shoot groups of different loads to check group size. Then I take a business card and place it under the barrel near the end of the stock, and shoot groups again. Most of the time the groups will shrink with a pressure point.
Next step is bed a permanent pressure point about 1" from the tip of the stock. Then it's back to the range for more load testing. Usually everything will fall in place and I'll have a good shooting rifle. The main thing is don't expect too much from a hunting rifle. If you can get one to group around 1"moa consistently you doing good.
Rem. 222
After fooling around with rifles for some time now. I have found that sporter barrel rifles usually shoot better with a pressure point near the end of the stock. But I have run into situations where a certain bullet will not shoot with a pressure point. I try to set up a rifle for what I'm going to shoot through it the majority of the time. On target rifles I usually free float barrel execpt for the first inch and half past the recoil lug.
Back to the pressure point method. I usually start out with the barrel channel with no pressure point. I shoot groups of different loads to check group size. Then I take a business card and place it under the barrel near the end of the stock, and shoot groups again. Most of the time the groups will shrink with a pressure point.
Next step is bed a permanent pressure point about 1" from the tip of the stock. Then it's back to the range for more load testing. Usually everything will fall in place and I'll have a good shooting rifle. The main thing is don't expect too much from a hunting rifle. If you can get one to group around 1"moa consistently you doing good.
Rem. 222
#8
Rem, I had the rifle out last weekend and tried the business card trick, it worked very well. I removed the factory pressure point last year and at the time that seemed to improve the accuracy. But now after putting a pressure point back in it seemed even better???
I'll figure it out.
Thanks Guys
I'll figure it out.
Thanks Guys
#9
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Fayetteville AR. USA
F4YG,
I recently traded for a .222 Rem. magnum, that someone had free floated the barrel. I bedded the reciever and left the barrel free floated. I tried it with two different bullet weights. One shot better with it free floated the other with a pressure point. I'm also going to add a pressure point, and try it again. Hopefully I will figure it out also.
Rem. 222
Edited by - rem. 222 on 02/24/2002 09:14:52
I recently traded for a .222 Rem. magnum, that someone had free floated the barrel. I bedded the reciever and left the barrel free floated. I tried it with two different bullet weights. One shot better with it free floated the other with a pressure point. I'm also going to add a pressure point, and try it again. Hopefully I will figure it out also.
Rem. 222
Edited by - rem. 222 on 02/24/2002 09:14:52




