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I use Wolf Ammo in 7.62x39. I have had accuracy problem with it, but what do you expect from a semi-auto carbine. I have also found I get a lot of dented primers/no fire.

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I have used the same .223 55 grain WOLF ammo and have noticed no problems with accuracy whatsoever. I have fired several hundred rounds of the stuff with no failures at all. In fact a shooting buddy who is ex-special forces tells me he considers it to be the most reliable ammo available. He shoots WOLF exclusively and claims to have never had a failure with many thousands of rounds. He uses the 7.62 x 39 rather than the 223.

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I just got my first case a few weeks ago (.223, 55 gr. FMJ) and not only have had no failures to feed or fire but have also found it to be pretty accurate out of a 14.5" bbl AR-15...maybe you just got a bad "lot"?

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never had any trouble myself

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Me and several of my friend have used the rimfire Match grade stuff and it shoots as well as the expensive ammo. We were paying 7 to 12$ a box of 50 , with the wolf we get 500 for 15$. This is 3/8 (@50 yds.)ammo when shot out of Walthers, Sako's and Kimbers.

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Funny you should mention accuracy problems with Wolf 55 grain .223 HPs. I intended to post my experiences with Wolf, but never got around to it. Wish I would have, would have saved you $$ on a case of worthless ammo.

Wolf supposedly gets 3241 fps muzzle out of I believe a 22" barrel. Well I test shot it out of a Savage model 12VSS 26" barrel and at 100 yards it looked like a shotgun pattern. I was chronographing the shots, and here's what I get from 20 rounds chronied (actually 19, 1 didn't register):

highest: 3055 fps
lowest: 2873 fps
average(mean): 2976 fps
average (median): 2985 fps
standard deviation: 50.0 fps

5-shot group size at 100 yards averaged about 5" from a benchrest. At first I thought I had knocked the reticle in my scope loose. But then I loaded up cheap American Eagle 50 gr. HPs (almost as inexpensive as Wolf) and here's what I got from 10 shots chronied:

highest: 3363 fps
lowest: 3278 fps
average (mean): 3320 fps
average (median): 3319 fps
average (mode): 3319 fps
standard deviation: 23.3 fps

5-shot groups averaged .5" at 100 yards.

My money will never be spent on Wolf again. Your mileage may vary. I have about 10 more boxes of Wolf if there are any takers- selling it cheap!

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Oh, I should mention range conditions: 45 degrees F, 1341 ft altitude, 90% relative humidity, not sure about barometric pressure.

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You guys want some good 223 ammo, go buy the Black-hills in the blue box ammo. Its about 12 bucks for a box of 50. Ive been shooting the 52 grain HP and they are very accurate. They said this is what the army competition shooters use in there long range matches.
http://www.black-hills.com/

go to products, remanufactured ammo then scroll down to the 223 bullett if you go to there site.

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I have had EXCELLENT results with Wolf .45 hardball. It seems as good in my M1911 as some lots of GI Ball Match ammo.

Larry

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I have quite a bit of experience with wolf's in 7.62x39mm hp's. I think that it is very..."inconsistant." I can shoot through one box, and not hit a dang thing, but then the next box will be as accurate as my .30-06. When I only pay $2 a box for high powered rifled shells, I don't think that I'm doing too bad. I don't use them for hunting, other than close coyotes and squirrels, but they are great for just playing with.

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Anyone know where to buy Black Hills ammo on the internet for a good price? $12 for 50 cartridges sounds like a good deal, I haven't found that kind of price on the internet.

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Wolf ammo is crap. If you like putting Mexican gasoline in your engines, then run Wolf ammo through your guns. Same difference.

In Russia, where the stuff is made, they have no quality control of the stuff. I've seen several "squib" rounds in 45acp and 9mm as well as one over charged round in 45acp, causing a Glock's magazine well to bust apart and the magazine blowing out the bottom along with the magazine floor plate blowing off the bottom too.

Suit yourself. I prefer to use a better quality factory ammo with my expensive guns. However I must say, the stuff must work for some people or it wouldn't sell.

Edited by - Hk45USP on 02/26/2002 11:12:03

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Just to clarify, the blue box Black Hills ammo that everyone is talking about are "factory reloads" and not new brass. That is not a bad thing necessarily as I have found they shoot very consistant. If you have a concern about using reloads however you might want to avoid these.
The only "concern" that I have about those Black Hills is that although they shoot consistant, they shoot consistantly high in my rifle. The Wolf also shoots consistant but more in line with the Remington and Winchester .223 ammo. If you are loading and/or practicing for defense or hunting AND you know that you will be using only Black Hills that's fine.
I have used the Wolf ammo and will continue to do so as it has performed flawlessly for me. My friends have fired tens of thousands of rounds of it without a single problem. It is very popular due to the low cost. It is probably mass produced as a result which would cause you to expect the odd problem. In my experience I HAVE had problems with the odd Remington round. Can't say the same about Wolf.
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