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Info on the Ruger #1
I’m considering getting a Ruger #1-V and was wondering if any one would have any information for me on this rifle. Rugers wed site mentions that this rifle is drilled and tapped to accept target blocks. What does that really mean? Do I have to buy a set of target blocks or does it come with the rifle. They also mention that the rifle comes with medium 1” scope rings. What would be the largest objective lens I could install with these rings. I’ve had my eye on this rifle for quite a while and when I went to Cabela’s and saw my first Ruger #1 I knew that would be my next rifle....Thanks for any information.....
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Unless something has changed, you get everything you need to mount a scope with the rifle...the mounts might have been a special thing that the shop I bought it from included, they're a good set of people and occasionally do things like that from time to time, i.e. since the rifle comes with rings and ready for a mount, throwing in a mount to help sell the rifle is productive....or they'll put together their own sale packages similar to Savage packages, throw a decent scope mounted on a rifle at a great price to help sales, does us as consumers a favor too.
Anyway, I'd check out Ruger's hard copy catalog, in the back it has a listing of available rings for each rifle, and maximum approx. objective diameter that they'll work with. Seems to me that their Med. rings work with up to 45mm obj.'s (42mm) and the highs are for up to 50mm, but check it out for yourself to be sure. |
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I got my Ruger #1V back in 1997 or so. It had the target blocks installed.
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You might also want to know that the standard of accuracy Ruger has for this rifle...and even in a varmint rifle....is 1 1/2" at 50 yards....yes fifty!!
Many #1 owners have had to send their rifles to an after market smith to get them to shoot 1" groups at 100 yards.....several folks have been happy with them "as is" but if the gun gets 3" groups at 100 yards don't expect help from Ruger..... |
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Vapodog, thanks for informing me on the accuracy on this rifle. I wasn’t aware of this problem. I’ll have to get more information before really thinking about buying the Ruger #1. Having 3” groups at 100 yards is not except able in my books especially with the price tag on this rifle.
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Vapordog that is totally not true of a Ruger #1. I've yet to shoot a Ruger #1 that wouldn't shoot under an inch group at a hundred yards. Who ever you have been talking to probally can't shoot well with any rifle. I own several of these not shooting rifles and theres alot of men at the rifle range that lose money to them every year. That's pretty outstanding to me for a standard hunting rifle to beat out bench rifles for groups at times. 3" group is plain awful. My Ruger's will shoot under that at 300yds. For the money this is one of the best rifles you can shoot for hunting.
I will say this about Ruger #1's they do have a slower twist and they like medium to light bullets alot better than heavier ones. But for the long range hunting its not a problem for those that load for speed. Speed equals ft lbs down range. So if your buying a ruger #1 30-06 to shoot 180's to 200gr bullet you probally bought the wrong rifle for that. But I bet I can load 180gr bullets in my 300win Ruger No1 and still shoot under 3" groups at a 100yds. lol If there standard accuracy was 1 1/2" at fifty yards then they wouldn't have been in production this long. Trailer you won't be disapointed in this rifle. Not only will they shoot but they shoot damn fine. Are they bench rifles nope they are built for hunting. But with the right load and the right man yes they can take home the money. Especially when we start shooting off hand silouettes. I see a competition coming up sometime in the future. hehe :D |
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The blocks come installed from the factory. You can use an objective up to 44mm with the medium rings. If you go with a larger objective you can send the medium rings back to Ruger and they will send you a High ring to replace them with.
I have seen several #1's that were good shooters out of the box and a few that weren't. If you buy the rifle and it isn't a good shooter you can have the forearm hanger bedded and this will float the barrel away from the forearm. This usually takes care of any accuracy problems. Bedding the forearm is not much different than bedding the action on a bolt gun and shouldn't cost much more. I think the #1 is one of the finest factory rifles produced. |
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Trailer,
The gun comes with scope mounts,on mine it came with Med bases,I have a 3.5-10x40 mm scope on it and has plenty of room. Mine is not a varmiter but the standard #1-B sporter in 25-06 rem.It can shoots the Kahonays off a fly at 100 yds. It is deadly acurate on the bench or rest,Vap-Dog just got burned on a Ruger gun and thier Customer service,it can happen to anyone,or any company the builds mass produced guns. |
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The Ruger #1's are very accurate Rifles.I have a 45-70 #1. Before trading for it I shot a few rounds.They were low for me but were just about touching each other @100yards.A few clicks up would have had it dead center.If you buy a Ruger and need different height rings Ruger will exchange them on a even trade.I believe it says this in the owner manual. I know a few people who did swap rings out with them.The #1V is drilled and tapped to except Target Blocks.Not sure if they come with the rifle or not.The blocks are inexpensive even if you need to buy them.I never heard what Vapodog said about 1 1/2" @50 yards.I know he's sour on Ruger Rifles.I have or had my share of Ruger Rifles and never had a accuracy issue.
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Vapordog that is totally not true of a Ruger #1 |
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You know something? That what I thought when the new SS mod. rifles came out.
I went out and bought me a bran new 7mm Rem. mag. I could put 5 shots within a .25 piece, and thought that this might be the best gun I have invested in, in a long time. Until one day I opened the breach and couldnt close the damn thing. So I called Ruger and they stated that this was a normal accurance for the # 1's. So I took It to my local hunting buddy/ gunsmith. and he told me that he has fixed at least a dozzen of these for the same reason. Anyway, I had him fix it and then I sold the damn thing. I will not own a rifle that I can NOT count on staying together. Just my experience with the # 1 rifle. hunter338. |
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Thanks to everyone who has commented on this rifle. My questions have been answered. I’m still undecided on the Ruger #1. I’m sure getting some interesting comments..
The problem I have now is I would have like to get the rifle in the 6mm Rem. but they stopped manufacturing the Ruger #1 in this cartridge. It was dropped from the line for this year as per there catalogue. (1 year to late) I had wanted something with a little more power then the 22-250 but not as much as the 25-06. I might have to go with the Ruger #1B in the 243 Win. instead. Thanks again....:) |
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I have a few #1's and all of them shoot well. As of the 1 1/2" accuracy @ 50 yards I would count it as hear say, just my opinion. Here's a typical group fired from a #1 chambered in 416 Rigby. It was shot at 50 yards from a standing position from a shooting stick. Off the bench at 100 yards,it has shot very well with groups under or at 1/2"....all this with a 400 grain bullet doing right at 2600fps........then again, it takes a good shooter behind an accurate gun to complete the equation;)
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As of the 1 1/2" accuracy @ 50 yards I would count it as hear say, THIS IS NOT HERESAY!!!!! |
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I have a Ruger #1 in 7mm mag since they first came out. Also have a #3. Never a problem with either and they shoot very well. I recently was roaming around the web and I did learn that a few people have problems with accuracy, and that one of the cures is a standard o-ring that is placed someplace in the forearm. This is a very popular firearm, so even a small percentage of people not satisfied can cause a stink.
My only objection to Ruger is the way they have gone about trying to protect themselves from liability, with the ugly writings on the guns and instruction booklets that are so full of warnings the warnings have no impact. At least that is the way it was when I purchased mine many years ago. |
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Until one day I opened the breach and couldnt close the damn thing. So I called Ruger and they stated that this was a normal accurance for the # 1's. So I took It to my local hunting buddy/ gunsmith. and he told me that he has fixed at least a dozzen of these for the same reason. These guns are not extremely easy to take apart or reassemble for the average shooter anyway. I can see the breechblock getting beat up if not assembled correctly. I purchased a used 45/70 that has the most gorgeous piece of walnut on it one can imagine. I stripped the gun down for inspection and it looked like the previous owner had beat the breach block with a ball peen hammer. Point is the gun still worked well . Sent it back to Ruger after talking with an extremely Polite Lady in Customer Service and was told to ship it back. Returned 2 weeks later with all new innards at no charge to me and I guarantee the old insides never left Ruger like that in the first place, now that is super service. The rest of the firearm companies can hang their head in shame with exception of Weatherby. With a 1-4 Vari-xII on it cloverleafs are the norm with any kind of 45/70 ammo. The same goes for a 1b in 280 rem. If you can find a very early number 1 you have a custom rifle in your hands..they were produced with Douglas Barrels and are as fine a gun as one can get. Vapo maybe you got one with a bad barrel and there were some produced that way until they went to producing their barrels in house . Any recently made # 1 or the late 60's early 70's version shoot extremely well. |
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Two winters ago I purchased my first #1. I though long and hard as there seemed to be two schools of though; people either loved or hated them. Didn't seem to be any inbetween. I was torn but the price was so good, I decided to buy it.
My 1B is a 7mm remington mag made in 1988. I have tried 5 different factory loads and all shoot between MOA and 2" off a bench. that is actually somewhat misleading as only one load has shot greater than 1.5" at 100 yards. The best load so far is Federal Premiums 140 gr Partition while the worst has been Federal Premiums 160 Nosler partition. I plan to try 160 gr Accubonds shortly. It is my impression that the #1 has been around long enough that there are a number of tricks to make them shoot if the one you have doesn't. It also seems those techniques are somewhat different than the normal bolt actions. Overall, I'm pleased with the rifle. I was actually expecting the worse but I would take my #1 on a hunt of a lifetime. |
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Vapordog, I've yet to have a Ruger #1 not shoot extremly well. I have never had to send one back to the factory or had to deal with their customer service. Sounds like they said what ever just to not have to repair your rifle. I can understand you disgust with Ruger's customer service on your behalf. That sounded like they just blew you off. I for one think that if a manufactorer is making all that money then the customer should be at the top of the list. Sorry for your misfortune.
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[quote][It was quoted to me over the phone by Ruger employees at their service center after I returned a 6MM Rem in a #1 to them the third time.....upon return of the gun and it still didn't shoot well, I called them and asked what loads they was using to test the gun.....and that's when they informed me of their standard for that gun.
THIS IS NOT HERESAY!!!!! /quote] Vapodog,[:@] chill out a bit[:@]....... everthings going to be ok;););) I just got off the phone with a guy that told me his cousin knew someone's brother inlaw that called Ruger's Service Department and they said that their accuracy standard in now 1/2"......:)Imagine that!:) THIS IS NOT HERE SAY!!!!! [:'(][:o][:-][&o]:eek:[&:] |
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I have heard a lot about inaccurate Ruger No. 1's, but have never personally seen one that would not shoot 1 MOA, and often a lot less, with the right ammo. I have, however, never fired more than 20 rounds of factory ammo in a No.1, but anyone who wants a varmint rig has to be a handloader. I don't care much about Ruger's acceptance standards, only my own!!
![]() This is a typical three-shot, 200 yard group shot with my No. 1B 7mm Rem. Mag., with 66.5 grains of N205 and the Rem. 175-grain PSPBT on a 1" grid target. I now use MRP in place of N205. |
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Here's a 7X57mm 100 yard group with a Ruger No. 1A, Liberty Model.
![]() Load: 140 grain Nosler Partition, 53 grains of WW 760, Norma case, Fed. 210 primer o/a loaded length, 82mm. MV, 3000 FPS Aiming point, a 1" GI black target paster. |
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And this here group was shot at 100 yards with my Ruger No. 3 in .30/40 Krag.....
![]() The load was a 170-grain Hornady .30/30 flatnose with 50 grains of IMR 4350, MV 2500 FPS, R-P cases, Fed. 210 primers. |
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Yes, the Ruger single-shots are inaccurate pieces of crap, as you can see. If this program would permit more than one 30 K file per reply, I have tons of others, from .25/'06's through 375 H&H to .45/70, every one of which is equally disgusting......
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Well ended up getting a 22-250 Ruger #1-B. Happen to come across a guy that was selling this rifle for a good price. It wasn’t the caliber I was looking for but the price was write. I had the dies for reloading so I couldn’t pass up the opportunity. Now all I need is a good scope and I’m off to the range.Thanks again for all the info....
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Good luck, and let us know how it shoots for you.
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I have a Ruger #1-V in a 22-250 and I love it it shoots great and has no recoil. It is a great gun.
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