Let's talk rifles, would like some opinions..
#11
There is certainly nothing wrong with the 7mm/'08 you mentioned, but I don't know of a pump in that caliber. A .250 Savage or a .257 Roberts would serve you well also. Both are pleasant to shoot, very accurate, and kill deer a lot better than a .30/30! I believe Remington once made some 760 pumps in .257 Roberts, and you can still find people selling M99 Savages chambered for the .250 Savage.
#13
Ammo is easy to find for the 250 and 257 in big sporting goods stores but out in the sticks it would be different. One could order a good batch at a time from Midway or one of the other bigger outfits though.
#14
ORIGINAL: semi
But i think the problem with the 257 and 250 will be hard to find ammo.
But i think the problem with the 257 and 250 will be hard to find ammo.
Perhaps. It is not hard to find around NY or PA. But I guess this is not a problem I give much consideration to, since I never use factory ammo for anything!
#17
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After packing my Win. Mod. 70 (270win.) around for 25+ years I decided I was finally ready for a lighter rifle. (Actually, this was the only excuse I could come up with to buy a new hunting rifle)
So, last year after hunting season I started looking around for a light wieght 243 and had settled on either a Ruger or Remington and was leaning towards the Rem. when my shooting partner came up with a Win. feather wieght in 257 Roberts.
Well I thought about it for as long as it takes to open a wallet and pull out the cash
I'm hoping to be able to put a synthetic stock on it between now and hunting season but if not I'm still going to enjoy packing around another classic.
So, last year after hunting season I started looking around for a light wieght 243 and had settled on either a Ruger or Remington and was leaning towards the Rem. when my shooting partner came up with a Win. feather wieght in 257 Roberts.
Well I thought about it for as long as it takes to open a wallet and pull out the cash

I'm hoping to be able to put a synthetic stock on it between now and hunting season but if not I'm still going to enjoy packing around another classic.
#18
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: College Station TX USA
Model 7 in 7mm08.
If I had it to do all over again, I might have chosen it over my A-Bolt in .270.
Even lighter recoil, easier to handle and pack around, with just as much punch.
If I had it to do all over again, I might have chosen it over my A-Bolt in .270.
Even lighter recoil, easier to handle and pack around, with just as much punch.
#19
Nontypical Buck
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From: Gypsum KS USA
Based on what you've mentioned, A .444Marlin Marlin levergun might suit your ticket...I know it's not a pump, but you mentioned an interest in leverguns, the .444's got more stank than the .30-30, makes for a LOT better deer rifle in my opinion, but it's a lot more shootable than the .30-06...I'd also suggest a .44mag in the Marlin 1894, I get basically the same performance in the field as a .30-30 (a little more aching trajectory, but they're both good to 150-200yrds on deer if you do your part), BUT, the .44mag uses about 1/3 the powder, or costs half as much if you're buying factory loads (I've bought Winchester Super-X .44mag 240grn half jacketed soft points for $11 a 50brick, when $11 a 20box is a decent price on similar quality .30-30rnds=better than half the price for .44mag). I suggested the .444 because you seem like you're looking for more power than the .30-30, as opposed to equal power from a different round.
The .45-70 Marlin 1895Guide gun might also fit the bill, it's light and handy, and the .45-70 is an awesome hunting round, IT IS MY OPINION that it's more shootable than the .30-06, it's kind of like the .454Cassul vs. the .480R, the .480 and the .45-70 may actually kick a little harder by the numbers, but it's more of a shove than a kick, the .30-06 or .454C are lighter recoiling but kick like hell...So basically the .30-06 feels like a pretty hard kick to the shoulder, while the .45-70 feels like a really hard shove, it might just be me, but I've ALWAYS found the .45-70 to be MUCH more shootable.
I'm also not certain, but it seems like when I actually figured the recoil energy of factory ammo in the .45-70 Guide gun, the recoil energy was considerably less than that of typical .30-06 loads (in a Ruger MKII M77 standard).
The .45-70 Marlin 1895Guide gun might also fit the bill, it's light and handy, and the .45-70 is an awesome hunting round, IT IS MY OPINION that it's more shootable than the .30-06, it's kind of like the .454Cassul vs. the .480R, the .480 and the .45-70 may actually kick a little harder by the numbers, but it's more of a shove than a kick, the .30-06 or .454C are lighter recoiling but kick like hell...So basically the .30-06 feels like a pretty hard kick to the shoulder, while the .45-70 feels like a really hard shove, it might just be me, but I've ALWAYS found the .45-70 to be MUCH more shootable.
I'm also not certain, but it seems like when I actually figured the recoil energy of factory ammo in the .45-70 Guide gun, the recoil energy was considerably less than that of typical .30-06 loads (in a Ruger MKII M77 standard).
#20
Dominant Buck
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From: land of the Lilliputians, In the state of insanity
As long as you are not looking to down animals larger than a whitetail, a 243 will do the job. A 22-250 is also a decient calb.. Many people will say the 22-250 is a little small of a bullet. It has its good and bad points. What you lose in size you gain in accuracy. I have shot lots of deer with a 22-250 and never lost one. I personally like the 30-06 best of all. But it can pop you sometimes. Have you tried different ammo. I know winchesters tend to be less punishing than remington core locks.


