How does Springfield get away with it
 

Thier XD pistols seem like glock clones with a fancy safety. Well two safeties. I wonder how they get away with it from Glock Distributors. Or maybe they got an agreement. I mean I am all for American companies ripping off Euopean companies. But a friend took apart his XD and the barrel, guide rod and all looks very simular.

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The XD is made in Croatia. It used to be called the HS2000 I believe. The company that makes the XD started to go under because of not marketing the gun well and not charging enough for it. Springfield bought the rights to the gun, changed the name and import it from the same Croatian company.

Glock isn't the only polymer framed pistol out there though. There are numerous companies that offer a polymer framed hand gun. I don't know if they have any kind of agreement with Glock or not though. All a company has to do is change one tiny thing about a patented part or entire gun and that new part with the tiny change now becomes and entirely new patentable part.

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Smith and Wesson had a little scuffle over their polymer pistol about 10 years back.


(because it was just like a Glock)

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I have the Smith and Wesson Sigma, the pistol in question. It is an EXACT replica except for the trigger. Shoots real nice like a Glock, just without the name I guess.

RE: How does Springfield get away with it
 

How do they get away with it? The real question is:

How do you get away with your horrible spelling?[:'(]

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Peyman, do you have anything useful to add to the actual topic or about guns in general? I will be happy to hear your views on Springfield Armory XD line of pistols. Come on step up to the grown ups table. We won't hurt ya.

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This is a Gun forum NOT A SPELLING BEE.[:@]

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You know I have glocks, but I really like some features of this XD pistol. I always stood by the "no safety means no nonsense", but kinda like some of the safety features on the XD. That way you might not shoot your ankle when trying to get the gun out of your ankle holster. I forgot about them being made in Croatia. (no I am not going to take the time to look up the spelling), I read about that in this months issue of G&A.

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If poor spelling will get a guy kicked off of this forum then I would have been gone the first day. I have forgotten most of my schoolhousing. I have had all the clocks but never the other one you are speaking of.:D

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Considering how many polymer guns are out there.......I've got a feeling that is not Glock patented.....or the patent exclusion rights.....have expired. (Not sure what international patent law is in that regard.) But it doesn't take very much difference to avoid patent infringements....especially when you are talking international laws.....as opposed to domestic patent laws.

But anyhow......I like the fact there is competition! I think it forces companies to constantly strive to improve their products. And "usually" the consumer comes out ahead, (though not always). Plus it does help keep a reasonable ceiling on prices! (All you have to do is look at the current price on pre-ban magazines to see supply-demand economics at work. Competition is good!)

Dave

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Oh sure, absolutely. Its just the XD didn't appear as just a "polymer gun" but the slide, trigger, even style and shape, slide guide rod and barrel looks like twins to my glocks. Except for the handle safety and trigger guard safety they look very fimiluar.

RE: How does Springfield get away with it
 

Hi bigcountry,

But it doesn't make your Glock's......any less Glock's!;) And at least as of yet it hasn't hurt the prices of the Glocks?!? (Though that is always a possibility.) Glock has proven itself not only an innovator.....but an extremely high quality firearm. Other than the XD's offer another choice...I don't think they'll have any adverse effect on Glocks.

Dave

P.S. When I compared the sub-compact Glocks with the little XD's. The Glocks are still head and shoulders ahead! (At least for concealability.)

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Thats what I carry. Mod 27 40S&W. Love it for the wieght and accurate little sucker too.

RE: How does Springfield get away with it
 

many gun manufacturers copy designs and actions of others......its always been done.....one person thinks of something to make something better and BAM.......everybody has the same thing on theirs.....i wonder how they do get away with it.....theyd have to change it somehow or buy the design from the other company and be allowed to copy it......thats an intersting point.....i wonder what they do..........

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I know from my company, we usually sic the legal team on a another company first when we get a hint of patent infringment, then ask questions later. Later, we get to find out what they are really doing. So it works both ways. We find out info, and sometimes we get lucky. Usually, I mean usually come to a nice comprimise. Sometimes its gets expensive. Hey thats what we pay all those millions in retainers for.

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Right on Bigcountry!

Hey Peyman.................

Welcome to the board. I'm Uncle Matt and I'm just an "average Joe" who enjoys this board, the info I learn here, the stories and "campfire" spirit of the chatroom, etc..

There is an old saying that children in glass houses should not throw stones - ever hear it? Now you have. I can't believe that you (of all people) would be critical of other folk's spelling.

Let's review some of your finer work I have reviewed in your past posts (and I only reviewed a very small percentage of your total posts).

hmmm - you spelled as humn.
new - you spelled as now.
forum - you spelled as formun.
haven't - you spelled as havn't.
experiment - you spelled as wxperiment.
wouldn't - you spelled as wouln't.
excitement - you spelled as exitement.
awesome - you spelled as awsome.

So as to "The real question - How do you get away with your horrible spelling?" It seems you are quite the authority so you are probobly asking a question that you already know the answer to.

Fact of the matter is that if you review "misspellings" as they occur (by all) 99% of the time these are not misspellings at all. They are simply typographical errors. A slight slip of the finger on the keypad. People will make mistakes, we all do. Learning from our mistakes is a wonderful way we, as God's creatures, learn to better ourselves, our lives and our world.

I think that you will find that if you are nice, polite and friendly to folks in these forums (and the world), that they will behave the same way to you. I have found them to be a great bunch of folks.

Of course if you have your mind set on throwing stones - the glass will surely be broken. I would not think that that picking at established members is a good way to introduce yourself on this board.

Of course this is just my opinion. I am entitled to my opinion, you are entitled to your opinion and everyone else is entitled to their opinion. (Of course opinions expressed here are ALWAYS subject to moderator's censorship and/or deletion.) If you want to reply and tell me to go jump off a cliff - fine. (Of course I'm not totally stupid so I would wear a parachute and pick a cliff high enough to allow it to hopefully fully open).

Enjoy this place and these good folks, they're really great.

Uncle Matt (in IL - "looking for a high enough cliff in IL" ideas anyone?)