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You know I got to ask. Have any of you guys ever made a mistake? If so why not post them on here, so we can gang up on you and tell you about them after you admitted that it was a mistake. That way we can all feel better about ourselves.

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It was never my intent to cast stones, I was just calling it like I saw it. I made an effort to try and not be overly judgemental because I realize that everything is not black and white. However, I can't condone the acts that Huntsalotey describes, and I don't think I'm in the minority (as I see from the posts). I do realize that I might have handled it more discretely (via PM), but since it was brought out publicly that's how I responded. I didn't want to persecute anyone, I just felt that if I didn't say anything that I was becoming part of the image problem that we as hunters already have.

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BC, If the guy admits and regrets his "mistake," he's forgiven! Not that he needs OUR forgiveness!
I just don't like the idea of being dragged in as in, "everybody does it!" Because everybody DOESN"T do it!
However, an illegal shot is not a mistake, its a choice!

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Besides the above, soul cleansing and conscience clearing on the internet isn't wise!
1. Its fuel to the anti's, and
2. People have been successfully prosecuted due to "internet confessions" and/or posting photos of illegally taken game!

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I agree, but it sure ain't going to help to guy to bash him. Just adds more attention. I guess I am just impressed by his outright honesty. There is usually alot more BS on here.

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I think Huntsalotey admitted he had done something he wasn't proud of....and I respect him for that! And from the tone of his post it sounded to me that he didn't intend to repeat the action.

And in saying that....I'm not picking on GordonGeckko for pointing it out. Because as a group we need to "police our own", even when we think we might be perceived as sanctimonious. So I respect him equally.

In my original post to mainehunt I erroneously suggested that the animal was left to die for reasons different than what happened in reality. And I certainly didn't want Huntsalotey to think I was being judgemental in a negaitive way. I know factually that many hunters.....particularly newer hunters experience "queasiness" with the actual "process of dying". To many, witnessing the death is even more difficult than the task of field dressing the animal after death. I learned about this process at a very young age when butchering time rolled around. But even to this day there is always that small part of me that "mourns" the passing of a worthy animal. And I don't have a problem being on "the level" about that.

When the day comes that the thrill of the hunt.....or the respect and thankfulness for successfully completing the hunt ever cease for me....I will lay down my "arms" and stop hunting. I believe they are all part of "reasons" we hunt. And in truth if someone told me they never had that little bit of "remorse for the passing of the game"......I'd suspect it is probably someone I not care to know!

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This thread has taken an ugly turn with Huntsalotey admitting to poaching and BigCountry supporting him with the "everyone does it arguement".

I very little understanding or simpathy for a 40yr old man who does something like this and then boast's about it on a hunting site. [:@] It's nice to see that most of the people on this board have some integrity and ethics.

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Akbound,

Again, I couldn't have said it better. Nice wording and good job.

Kevin

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To everyone. Hey I didn't look to cause any kind of a stir. My main reason for the post was to relate experience hoping to find out your alls opinions on the killing power of the 308 compared to the '06. What the thread became was an attack on one of the examples I used. I did not generalize that all would have reactted the way I did, I did however mean to convey that many would have at least had the thought cross your mind. I acted on the thought. That is my lack of self control and discipline. The majority cannot convince me that it would not have at least crossed your mind. ( NOt all of you though) Yes I made a mistake and yes I am sorry. If I can be of help to another through my mistake I hope I can be. I take full blame and responsibility. Again, Im sorry. I never want to give us hunters a bad name. that was not my motivation when I committed this act. I tend to think that I am more disciplined now and would not make the same mistake so don't worry about that.
I simply wanted to share with fellow hunters and it seems to me that some of you all would rather pick things out of my post and tear me down from it. Like I said, you never answered the post as I asked it and meant it. If it does make you feel better to bash me go ahead. I am not a person that holds grudges or becomes angry at such things. Air it out of your systems. I have no ill feelings from any of you and "akbound" I think thats right, along with the others that lashed out, I hope to interact with you in the future on better issues on this board. If perhaps you all would rather me not be a part of the board then just let me know and I will walk away with no ill feelings or disrespect to you. Again, it was my fault. Sorry.

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Hi again Huntsalotey (and forum),

I don't presume to speak for anyone, other than myself. But assuming that you are sincere in recognizing what you did was wrong....have admitted it....and accept that there really is "no excuse" to do so again....I do NOT want to see you go. As long as you are sincere...and not just apologizing with a "wink and a smile".

Some of the other guys have pointed out...that we have most probably done things that we are not proud of. And for many of us...that is true. I have personally done a thing or two when I was younger...that I am most certainly...NOT proud of. I'd like to think that as I've grown, and matured, that I've become more responsible...more ethical...and try to impart that to those around me!

Personally, once again, I think GordonGekko did the "right thing".....even though it wasn't either, the easy thing to do.....or the popular thing (with everyone) to do! As hunters we constantly tell each other....that we need to "police our own". And when GG did exactly that...he got jumped on for it.

We can't have it both ways! Either we are sincere about our ethics and the image we want portrayed.....or we are not. And sometimes, if indeed we are sincere, that means we "take the high road"....and not the "easy road". And that is what I think GG did. He should be commended....not condemned.

My impression was the GG was condemning the "behavior".....not the person!

Hopefully we have all learned something from this post in particular.