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Bocajnala 01-15-2020 04:15 AM

And it's the right size. Significantly smaller than my xds which I pocket carry at times currently anyway. And smaller than the 9mm options that I can find.


Cub Slayer 01-15-2020 05:30 AM

I've read nothing but good things about the Ruger LCP II, and have spoken to several people who carry it.

The only .380 in our house is the M&P 380 EZ. Not small, but my wife loves it. Curious to give its new 9mm cousin a try.

Memtb2149 01-15-2020 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by Cub Slayer (Post 4368604)
I like the Sig P938, although it has a manual safety. Or perhaps the Kahr CM9?

We have two Kahr CM9’s and my wife carries a Sig 938. For pocket use.....the Kahr is more desirable! The new and improved Ruger LCP would be a good choice as well. A good trigger (for a small pocket pistol), and has no sharp edges. One gunwritter described it a “feeling like well-used bar of soap”! That should make it a great pocket pistol.....provided it’s not “slick if wet”! :p memtb

Cub Slayer 01-15-2020 07:01 AM

I *almost* bought a CM9 instead of the P938. I had the salesman bring out both so I could compare them side-by-side. After so doing, I bought the P938. I liked the trigger of the P938 much better. I'm NOT a big 1911 fan, but that has more to do with the cartridge than the gun itself.

I didn't like the big gap between mag and grip on the CM9 - thought I might get pinched a few times. The P938 just seemed better overall.

Big Uncle 01-15-2020 07:09 AM

If I am not wearing a jacket or coat I carry a Ruger LCP. I have both the regular LCP and the LCP II. The LCP II has better sights and trigger but for some odd reason I can shoot the regular LCP slightly better than the LCP II. Everyone else I know shoots the newer version of the LCP slightly better than the older one. I do have larger-than-average hands so getting a proper grip was a problem until I added one of those rubber grip sleeves. The grip sleeve worked wonders.

I have no idea how many rounds I have fired through the LCP pistols, but I have shot them a fair amount for such a tiny pistol. They surely are not target pistols but I have never seen any type of malfunction, and they are accurate enough for their intended purpose.

Bocajnala 01-15-2020 12:02 PM

Can I find the Ruger lc9 family without the safety?

I liked them- but everyone I looked at all had safeties


Bocajnala 01-15-2020 12:04 PM

And the Glock 43 was only slightly larger than the lc9.

But at that point I'm starting to get close to the xds size anyway.

Decisions are hard.


Cub Slayer 01-15-2020 12:07 PM

I thought such beasts were available.

BTW, decide whether you like the LC9 or the LC9s more, as people seem to feel very strongly about this point.

Cub Slayer 01-15-2020 12:12 PM

Yep, now I remember. You want the "LC9s PRO". Not only does it exclude the manual safety, it gets rid of the magazine disconnect.

I gotta say, the LCP II was considered a huge improvement over the LCP by many. I thought by now that Ruger would have done the same with the LC9.

It also seems at Ruger's website that they're not making the hammer-fired LC9 anymore, though I doubt you'd have trouble finding them on the used market if you wanted to.

Nomercy448 01-17-2020 04:28 PM

The LCP and LCP II are a size smaller than the LC9. Personally, I think the LCP Gen II is the belle of the Ruger LCP line up. The Gen II has an upgraded trigger and far better sights than the Gen I. The LCP II is actually a single action design, but with an extreme positive sear angle to create a DA like feel. The LCP Gen 2 is a traditional double action only design, but with recoil assist - meaning the slide partially cocks the hammer, and such, the hammer can not be doubled. The LCP II did correct the ridiculous concave grip sidewalls of the LCP, but doesn’t have the same comfort of the original LCP with a Hogue slip on is the best feel and best control of any of the LCP’s - the LCP II Hogue grip is better than bare, but the straighter grip backstrap makes the LCP II want to tip forward in hand after a few rounds, which doesn’t happen with the Gen I or II with or without a Hogue wrap. The Gen II sights are better than the LCP II’s as well.

The LCP II is a very good pocket pistol, but there’s a reason the Gen II’s are still in production - because they’re a more popular model, also for a reason - because the Gen II is a better pistol than the LCP II. I own both, carry both, and recommend both, depending which fit best in your hand and meet your personal preference.

The LC9s Pro is what we all asked for - yelled for - when the LC9 came out. The LC9s was halfway there, and it was a frustrating few years before we were given the Pro without the manual safety. FINALLY. I personally removed the lever from my LC9, and carried it with the safety off. The safety could still be activated with a fingernail. The factory lever was stiff and exceptionally tiny, such it was a joke to pretend it was effective for quick-deploy self defense uses - and of course, a manual safety on a recoil assist DAO pistol is silly from the jump. Of the LC9 frame, the LC9s Pro is the belle.

I do absolutely agree, however, that the LC9 frame pistols are of a size which REALLY makes me think twice and thrice before strapping on - since the G19 has better ergonomics, twice the capacity, and conceals ALMOST as easily.

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