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Big Uncle 11-15-2019 03:46 AM

M&P Shield EZ
 
My wife has had a Shield EZ for a while and really thinks highly of it. She had some difficulty with the slides of other pistols but the EZ is exactly as the name indicates- it is easy, and she shoots it well. I carry a little 380 often in a LCP but this is a completely different class of pistol with good sights, a grip safety, and a good trigger so it is a lot easier to hit your target with it. She recently looked at the Performance Center version with the straight trigger (and porting of questionable value) but decided to stay with her standard model.

It is a winner, and I would recommend it without reservation to anyone that wants an easy-to-use pistol..

bronko22000 11-15-2019 05:40 AM

Good points Uncle. I like the line of M&Ps. I have a Shield in 9 mm and a full size M&P40. Great pistols that are easy to disassemble and clean and are accurate.

Cub Slayer 11-15-2019 08:16 AM

Even though I am no fan of the M&P line (after all, it can't be a Walther P99 hard as it tries), I concur regarding the M&P 380 EZ. Bought one for the wife and she loves it. Shoots it pretty well too. My daughter also likes it. S&W is going to sell a gazillion of them.

Champlain Islander 11-15-2019 01:40 PM

I have a shield in 9 mm and like it. The wife was having trouble racking it for some reason so I got her a nice little S&W 637 J frame airweight in 38 sp. Nice little double action revolver and is a decent pocket carry too. Fits nicely in a pants front pocket. Wife won't carry it but keeps it ready at the house.

bronko22000 11-15-2019 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Cub Slayer (Post 4364757)
Even though I am no fan of the M&P line (after all, it can't be a Walther P99 hard as it tries), I concur regarding the M&P 380 EZ. Bought one for the wife and she loves it. Shoots it pretty well too. My daughter also likes it. S&W is going to sell a gazillion of them.

Walther P99 ...Pfffffttt. Ain't no better than an M&P IMO. Shot both and the M&P feels better in my hand and more accurate. (Probably because of this fact)

Cub Slayer 11-15-2019 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by bronko22000 (Post 4364790)
Walther P99 ...Pfffffttt. Ain't no better than an M&P IMO. Shot both and the M&P feels better in my hand and more accurate. (Probably because of this fact)

Sacrilege!

I love the P99 trigger and the SA/DA action. Bought the compact to keep it company.

bronko22000 11-15-2019 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by Cub Slayer (Post 4364791)
Sacrilege!

I love the P99 trigger and the SA/DA action. Bought the compact to keep it company.

LOL.....I thought that would get a rise out of you. I guess that's why they make so many different types of firearms. But honestly, as far as pistols go (not revolvers) the two I can shoot the best are my Taurus PT-1911 .45 ACP and Taurus G2C 9mm. First time I ever shot a bowling pin match I used the PT-1911 and won the match. My G2C I can hit soda cans at 40-50 yards on a pretty consistent basis.

Cub Slayer 11-16-2019 12:48 AM

A friend just sent me a link for a Taurus G2C for $205. That's pretty amazing if the gun is any good. As you know, Taurus has had a spotty reputation, but I've been hearing nothing but good about the G2C.

bronko22000 11-18-2019 06:03 PM

Cub i have a few Taurus pistols and revolvers and they all work flawlessly. They had troubles when they first started but they make some good stuff now.

Cub Slayer 11-19-2019 02:50 AM

I have a Taurus PT99AF from 1992. Never jammed.

grizzly 2 01-02-2020 10:02 AM

I came very close to buying a 380 ez when they were on sale with the rebate. Before doing so I checked on the Smith and Wesson Forum and found many complaining of stove piping the last round. They were thinking magazines but the issue hadn't been resolved yet. I'm sure the majority don't have that problem but it was enough to make me back away. In a way I'm glad because I wasn't too comfortable with their grip safety. It was too easy to not engage it if there was any sort of struggle or no time to acquire a perfect grip. It certainly fills a need in the market. I'm hoping another company follows suit.

I've only bought one Taurus 85 5 shot snub. Like many revolvers being sold today, the barrel was clocked off center. I hate buying on line. For something that simple you would think you'd get a straightforward answer from customer service since it was shooting to the left. But no, they left alot of doubt and would not pay shipping. So I pawned it with it's lifetime guarantee for someone else to deal with. Who knows, it may not bother them. It was another sale/rebate purchase and only cost me $20 to keep it for over a year. Really wasn't a bad handgun if it had shot to point of aim.

Ridge Runner 01-04-2020 03:07 PM

bought one for my woman for Christmas.....will report back after thorough testing.
RR

Cub Slayer 01-06-2020 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by grizzly 2 (Post 4367849)
I came very close to buying a 380 ez when they were on sale with the rebate. Before doing so I checked on the Smith and Wesson Forum and found many complaining of stove piping the last round. They were thinking magazines but the issue hadn't been resolved yet. I'm sure the majority don't have that problem but it was enough to make me back away. In a way I'm glad because I wasn't too comfortable with their grip safety. It was too easy to not engage it if there was any sort of struggle or no time to acquire a perfect grip. It certainly fills a need in the market. I'm hoping another company follows suit.

I've only bought one Taurus 85 5 shot snub. Like many revolvers being sold today, the barrel was clocked off center. I hate buying on line. For something that simple you would think you'd get a straightforward answer from customer service since it was shooting to the left. But no, they left alot of doubt and would not pay shipping. So I pawned it with it's lifetime guarantee for someone else to deal with. Who knows, it may not bother them. It was another sale/rebate purchase and only cost me $20 to keep it for over a year. Really wasn't a bad handgun if it had shot to point of aim.

I have only one Taurus and it has been flawless. From what I've read, the revolvers are cheap S&W knockoffs. Some gunsmiths won't work on them. I'd stay away.

Their newer semiautomatics are getting decent reviews these days.

Nomercy448 01-06-2020 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by Cub Slayer (Post 4368123)
I have only one Taurus and it has been flawless. From what I've read, the revolvers are cheap S&W knockoffs. Some gunsmiths won't work on them. I'd stay away.

Their newer semiautomatics are getting decent reviews these days.

This is backwards of the experience of almost anyone who has actually handled Taurus revolvers and pistols. Their steel revolver lines have been proven quality firearms for decades, whereas their non-Mil-clone pistol models, especially poly framed pistols, have had remarkable feeding, reliability, and safety issues.

Cub Slayer 01-07-2020 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by Nomercy448 (Post 4368142)


This is backwards of the experience of almost anyone who has actually handled Taurus revolvers and pistols.

Um, no. I've handled and shot several Taurus revolvers. I'd stick with S&W or Ruger.

Bocajnala 01-07-2020 07:09 AM

:hit:

nomercy, you couldn't beat good information into this one with a stick if you tried. He already knows it and has it all figured out.

-Jake

Cub Slayer 01-07-2020 08:25 AM

Thanks for reminding me why I generally don't bother with hunting forums. Too much *rule 1 violation* waving, too little information.

Bocajnala 01-07-2020 08:40 AM

You were given good information.

-Jake

Cub Slayer 01-07-2020 10:11 AM

I was given opinion, but I dared to raise a differing opinion. You also provided a healthy dose of *rule 1 violation* waving, hence the flippant disregard for any dissent.

Bocajnala 01-07-2020 10:38 AM

I owe you an apology- publicly. I've been unnecessarily hard on you. And it has clearly hurt your feelings and made you not want to be a part of the forum. So, I'm sorry.

But let me try again, with a different approach. From your posts you seem to be new to hunting. And probably new to fire arms as well. There are some members here with a ton of knowledge, experience, and good things to offer if you're willing to listen to them.

No mercy said that your statement was opposite of what most people 'in the know' would say. That was a correct and factual statement- not an opinion. You came back with a "no"... Again, his statement was a fact, not an opinion. Most people who have been around, know that taurus has quality revolvers but a bad history with their pistols- the opposite of what you were saying.

You're welcome to feel differently. But his statement was still correct. Most people would say the opposite. His statement had nothing to do with your personal opinion or experience. Merely stating that what you said was the opposite of most people's experience.

I'll lighten up and you consider learning from some of these guys who have allot to offer.

​​​​​​-Jake

Cub Slayer 01-07-2020 10:42 AM

Better idea - don't address me again. Better for both of us.

Bocajnala 01-07-2020 10:53 AM

I don't think that'll work.

-Jake

Cub Slayer 01-07-2020 11:01 AM

Bummer, but I suppose I'll get to learn how when two people express an opinion, one morphs into "fact" while the other is the result of inexperience and unwillingness to learn.

If I wanted to play "Masters of the Universe", I could buy the toy instead.

Big Uncle 01-08-2020 07:30 AM

Since I originally posted this topic my wife has put about 250 rounds through her EZ. It has functioned quite well with no issues whatsoever. Four other folks that I know have recently purchased the EZ and they all like them very much. One of the folks that recently bought one is a man who liked his wife's pistol so much that he bought one for himself to replace his regular 9mm Shield for a carry pistol. Everyone seems to like both the ease of manipulating the slide and easy loading magazines. I always had to load my wife's magazines for her until she got the EZ, now she can do it. So far, so good.

Isn't it amazing how fast a thread can turn to a completely different topic cause grief?

Cub Slayer 01-08-2020 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Big Uncle (Post 4368255)
Isn't it amazing how fast a thread can turn to a completely different topic cause grief?

You had an awesome run going, then derailed it in the last sentence!

hunters_life 01-16-2020 07:00 PM

Just can't bring myself to like anything .380. Im even "iffy" about 9mm at times. I load the hottest hardest hitting ammo I can safely load in 9mm. While yes I do know that .380 can do serious damage, I would rather trust my life to a little more power.

To the argument going on about Taurus, you will find few on this forum, hell you would find few in this country, that know more about firearms than Nomercy448 there Cub Slayer. Even my old man referred to him for advise on certain firearm subjects and he was pretty much smarter than most about anything gun related. And he informed you correctly about Taurus. Their revolvers have always been pretty good quality but only lately have their pistols enjoyed a fair to good reputation.

Cub Slayer 01-17-2020 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by hunters_life (Post 4368800)
Just can't bring myself to like anything .380. Im even "iffy" about 9mm at times. I load the hottest hardest hitting ammo I can safely load in 9mm. While yes I do know that .380 can do serious damage, I would rather trust my life to a little more power.

To the argument going on about Taurus, you will find few on this forum, hell you would find few in this country, that know more about firearms than Nomercy448 there Cub Slayer. Even my old man referred to him for advise on certain firearm subjects and he was pretty much smarter than most about anything gun related. And he informed you correctly about Taurus. Their revolvers have always been pretty good quality but only lately have their pistols enjoyed a fair to good reputation.

Thanks. Needed a little more unsubstantiated *rule 1 violation* waving. Better than coffee for a little pick-me-up.

hunters_life 01-17-2020 04:18 PM

Unsubstantiated? Buddy just where do you get off with your unsubstantiated stuff? I've been in the firearms game since I could hold one in my hands. That's been a pretty substantial number of years too. And I have shot several Taurus firearms, both revolver and pistol. Even owned a PT92 which is the pistol that started getting their reputation out of the gutter. Shot just as well as my Brigadier as far as no jams. Was just a touch less accurate but not enough to really speak about. So before you come off with your unsubstantiated crap, how about you learn something from those that actually have substantiated what they are speaking about through experience and not just reading about crap on the internet.

Cub Slayer 01-18-2020 04:30 AM

I know. Jerry Miculek has your photo in a place of honor in his living room. Gaston Glock runs all design decisions by you, and the ghost of Sam Colt haunts you out of envy.

Ridge Runner 01-18-2020 07:46 AM

keep pokin the bear!

Cub Slayer 01-18-2020 08:13 AM

You might want to pay more attention to who is dumping on whom before making such a blanket statement, RR.

Ridge Runner 01-18-2020 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Cub Slayer (Post 4368871)
You might want to pay more attention to who is dumping on whom before making such a blanket statement, RR.

I did! have followed the thread closely
RR

Cub Slayer 01-18-2020 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by hunters_life (Post 4368848)
So before you come off with your unsubstantiated crap, how about you learn something from those that actually have substantiated what they are speaking about through experience and not just reading about crap on the internet.

Am I the only person who sees the abundant irony in this? HR makes the baseless assumption that my knowledge comes from nothing but the Internet (patently false, BTW, but I haven't mastered the insecure HuntingNet ego enough to respond).

His recommended remedy? I need to study the pearls of wisdom from others on ... ready for it .... AN INTERNET FORUM.

I'll get right on that, after my marriage counseling session from Bill Clinton and life coaching from Jack Kevorkian.

Can't make this stuff up. Its like InfoWars for gun owners!

Cub Slayer 01-18-2020 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by Ridge Runner (Post 4368873)
I did! have followed the thread closely
RR

Then I guess I'll have to chalk up your error to the bandwagon effect.

Ridge Runner 01-18-2020 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Cub Slayer (Post 4368875)
Then I guess I'll have to chalk up your error to the bandwagon effect.

if everybody else is always wrong, there is an ignore button, if you just do us the honor of ignoring everyone else, then all you will see is you're 5.5 posts a day that you make, but I will tell ya, not much useable info in them!
RR

Cub Slayer 01-18-2020 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by Ridge Runner (Post 4368876)
if everybody else is always wrong,

Hyperbole much? I was not the person who described my opinion as "fact" and differing opinions as "based on lack of knowledge and reading the internet". I have the maturity to represent my opinions as opinions, not "fact" nor have I thrown a tantrum that someone would dare disagree.

What seems to be missed among the tsunami of ego building/*rule 1 violation* waving is that on the topic of Taurus firearms, we only disagreed on one point - one point among several in total agreement.

What might help would be if our Super Moderators would publish an official list of Masters of the Universe. That way, mere mortals who get all of their knowledge from the Internet would know who we're allowed to disagree with, and whose opinions must be treated as immutable fact. The Catholic church can probably provide some guidance here. They have something similar for the pope.

Cub Slayer 01-18-2020 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Ridge Runner (Post 4368876)
there is an ignore button

Unfortunately, it does not work for moderators. Trust me on this point.

CalHunter 01-18-2020 09:28 PM

OK. This topic is locked while it gets reviewed. Please do not take any arguments from this topic and continue them in other topics.
CalHunter
Moderator

Bocajnala 01-18-2020 10:32 PM

Cubslayer, some of your posts were edited for Rule 1. Consider that a warning and avoid that phrase, and other's like it, in the future.
1. No vulgar language or profanity – This includes inappropriate words, inappropriate sexual references and other vulgar statements. There are word filters in place for a reason, DO NOT try to bypass them with alternate characters or spellings

Anybody can view the rules- and the reasons for them here.
https://www.huntingnet.com/articles/...oom-rules.html

Thread is opened back up. I suggest everyone stay on topic. As a reminder-
12. While we encourage lively debate, we will not tolerate personal attacks. Any person attacking another forum member will receive a warning and have their message removed. Any future incident thereafter will result in that member being removed from the forum.

13. Members are to respect the designated TOPIC AREAS when posting their message. This includes off-topic and sales information that does not belong in the Main Forum area. Those who post messages not relating to the topic area, will have the threads closed or the posts deleted.

I'm guilty on this one as well, so apologies to Big Uncle on getting this thread off topic.

-Jake

Cub Slayer 01-19-2020 05:41 AM

Perhaps a much broader lens is in order when applying #12 - I certainly hope you're not suggesting that I was the only, or even the majority perpetrator of this. I received a lot more of it than I dished out.


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