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Noticing a trend with used rifles
I'm noticing a trend on used rifles.
I hit allot of older style gun shops that get allot of used rifles in. I'm seeing allot of them sit on the shelf for a long time. If I had an abundance of money I'd have picked up a closet full already. these aren't high end collector type rifles. But allot of old Winchester's, Remingtons, marlins and savages. Good, useable, hunting rifles. The "classics" I think allot of the older guys that had these are dying, going into assisted living type situations, or just retiring and thinning down the herd. Allot of the younger guys aren't too interested in blued steel and wood. So these rifles are sitting on shelves longer than they used to. Although the prices haven't dropped yet locally. I think eventually they may. -Jake |
If it's not tacti-cool and doesn't have "Creed" in the name it seems like people aren't interested
-Jake |
Pretty difficult to sell a 1992 Ford Tempo in 2019. Just the way it goes. |
yes Ive noticed a similar trend, the local gun shops all want to give you very little on a trade in,
but want top dollar on the inventory they want too sell, now obviously, thats more or less the way business has always worked to some extent, but its damn hard to hand over a rifle in pristine condition , that may have had less than three or four boxes of ammo through it, and in many cases the older rifles were built with higher quality and better fit & finish work, and accept less than half of what you paid for it , no mater what the time frame, between the two transactions....especially when its on the shelf marked up to double later on, marked ON SALE /BARGAIN so theres a good many guys with a few safe queens they won,t bother trading in. if you have something unique or in pristine condition or rare, try to find a local buyer that appreciates what you have for sale. you might be amazed at what some older rifles and hand guns sell for. most of the local shops low-ball your guns, in my experience, no mater the condition or value, hoping to maximize their profits. ask around if your in the market, you may find a friend that has what you want ,and strike a bargain you both benefit from. |
I'm pretty fortunate to have a dealer that gives me a fair price for my trade ins. And his mark up isn't really all that bad. But what really gets me is he has a lot of rifles on the used racks that someone put a deposit on and the tags had "sold" on them with the buyers name. There are a lot that I've picked up and asked "does this guy really want this?" I wish he would put these guns on a rack in the back room somewhere.
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It’s a means of displaying inventory to appear “well stocked” without actually increasing inventory cost. Also a means, in lay away programs, to motivate guys to pay off, since other folks are watching their tags, not being paid off... For new items, it’s a means to continue to display something without increasing inventory cost and ordering a replacement - but knowing another could be available in 2 days. Really common practice for SOT’s - as long as the product won’t get damaged, it’s a great opportunity to display held inventory and propagate further sales without increasing inventory costs, while the future owner’s application is processed. |
Originally Posted by Nomercy448
(Post 4354237)
Pretty difficult to sell a 1992 Ford Tempo in 2019. Just the way it goes. |
Originally Posted by Oldtimr
(Post 4354275)
However, a 1992 Ford Tempo was a piece of junk when it came off the assembly line, unlike the classic rifles.
These rifles are mostly as good, other than possible dings or nicks, as the day they were bought new. -Jake |
My point was it was just a car, and popular in its day. No different than a Rem 700 or Win 70 from 20-30yrs ago - they were just rifles of their day. We all want to think a 1985 CDL was a fine piece of craftsmanship, but it really was just a rifle, thousands of them made each year. So a low mileage Tempo really isn’t so different than a blued and walnut 1985 700 CDL... just a rifle... A whole generation of hunters and shooters coached their sons, daughters, and mentees, the next generation of hunters and shooters to get a heavy barreled rifle for varmints, to get stainless rifles for wet conditions, and that dinging up a nice wood stock is criminal... They taught the next generation that buying used might mean buying someone else’s problem, and that buying new for the same price or just a little more as used is often good insurance. It shouldn’t be surprising that they listened and don’t buy blued and walnut rifles. |
Originally Posted by Nomercy448
(Post 4354295)
. It shouldn’t be surprising that they listened and don’t buy blued and walnut rifles.
-Jake |
If I was just getting into hunting and saw a used rifle in a gun shop for around $400. Why would I buy that when You could buy a new entry level gun with a cheap scope on for that price. Surveying my rifle collection everyone of my rifles I use including muzzleloaders are used except my current deer hunting rifle that I won at a QDMA dinner. |
Why buy used rifles?
well theres a great many used rifles that are no longer available new, a good many rifles that are no longer made were much better quality than the off the shelf, modern rifles. while there are exceptions most entry level rifles are not well fitted, or exceptionally accurate, nor do the feed and function as smoothly, it takes time and experience to know, and fully appreciate, the differences, as too, why a browning or a colt saur, or weatherby or sako costs more than your average Stevens,marlin,savage,or Winchester sure you can hunt and kill game with the entry level rifles, its a functional tool. but you don,t get the same feel, or pride of ownership or in many cases consistent accuracy |
Originally Posted by Nomercy448
(Post 4354295)
My point was it was just a car, and popular in its day. No different than a Rem 700 or Win 70 from 20-30yrs ago - they were just rifles of their day. We all want to think a 1985 CDL was a fine piece of craftsmanship, but it really was just a rifle, thousands of them made each year. So a low mileage Tempo really isn’t so different than a blued and walnut 1985 700 CDL... just a rifle... A whole generation of hunters and shooters coached their sons, daughters, and mentees, the next generation of hunters and shooters to get a heavy barreled rifle for varmints, to get stainless rifles for wet conditions, and that dinging up a nice wood stock is criminal... They taught the next generation that buying used might mean buying someone else’s problem, and that buying new for the same price or just a little more as used is often good insurance. It shouldn’t be surprising that they listened and don’t buy blued and walnut rifles. I fully agree, nothing wrong with buying a good used rifle, but in today's world of folks with or THINK they have disposable income, most seem to want NEW to be in the newest coolest rifle, and most buy based on marketing, and don't really know a LOT about rifles , and what makes one better than another, or better suited for one thing over another marketing tend to make more sales today than yrs back IMO and you didn;t have so many models as you do now, due to things worked and most didn;t see a need to keep making silly changes to sell more tried and true worked then the modern era came upon us, and now its a crazy world where everyone NEEDS to have new things often!, or seems this way to me! the more buttons silly names or gadgets an item has the more folks want them! or if seen on TV or multi media being used by "X" person, they buy into the hype and HAVE TO HAVE IT Mind set so many seem to have today! from a former gun store owner, I can tell you I made more money selling USED guns than I ever did selling NEW one's. so, win win for me were and still are on used guns pick up some great deals all the time on them, by folks caught up in marketing hype needing NEW ONE"S LOL |
i know I once found a Remington Model 700 Classic in 6.5x55 gathering dust in a shop and I made sure it went home with me. Price was good, classic caliber, great hunting round. It has stacked up quite a few whitetails, mulies and pronghorns. If i could find one just like it in 7x57 I'd grab it too.
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Ive found several deals in used high quality rifles over the decades
, Ive only passed on a few I regret, now. but being retired puts a big crimp in finances |
I think some of it might have to do with the cost of the bottom tier new rifles. For basically $3-$400 you can go by a rifle with a tupperware stock and a cheap scope that is brand new. I love the older rifles I own a couple but I also own some of the new stuff. And the stuff coming out of the box right now shoots very well with little to no work. How long they will last compared to my older models is a different story.
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The 7x57 in anything seems to bring top dollar. I know where theres an FN in 7mm that I would like to pick up.
My gun buying has been mostly put on hold until the wife finishes up school. Unless I find a crazy good deal -Jake |
Originally Posted by Bocajnala
(Post 4354391)
The 7x57 in anything seems to bring top dollar. I know where theres an FN in 7mm that I would like to pick up.
-Jake |
jake, those guys dont know what they are missing. a good blued gun with a wood stock is the best in my book.
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I am in my 70's and grew up with wood and blue steel so they are still attractive to me. I am stuck on the old calibers too, there isn't much that can't be done with a .243, 6.5X55, 7X57, 30-30, and 30-06 depending on the game. There are many larger calibers but I never used them because I only hunted in the Midwest. I have a weakness for these old guns when I see them in gun shops and have to talk myself out of buying them because I would never use them. Stainless has its advantages, I own stainless black powder rifles and also a blued one. I do not use the blued one, it is too pretty to use like a couple of shotguns that are "safe queens". There is a joy in oiling them from time to time and net shooting them. Am I rambling? Sorry.
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