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Old 01-20-2019, 07:37 AM
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I'm thinking about a new rifle for deer/antelope hunting. I'm thinking about Savage 110 with the accufit stock. Seen lots of good comments but mostly by people doing gun reviews which I think tend to be tainted as they apparently are asked to do so by the manufacture. I have a couple of Savages now and I'm very happy with them. I like the idea of adjustable stock as I could break in the grand kids with a gun that is more likely to fit them. Caliber wise I was think of the 6.5 Creedmoor for the low recoil. I've looked at a comparison with the 270 (my favorite caliber) and it indicated the 270 was actually a bit flatter shooting but wind drifted a bit more. I could be talked into almost any gun and or caliber so let me hear from you.
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Old 01-20-2019, 07:49 AM
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Personally I like the direction you're leaning. I have no experience with the 6.5 but seem to read great thing after great thing. 270....as we know is time proven. I don't think you can go wrong with either.

Love all my Savage rifles, especially for the prices.

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Old 01-20-2019, 11:13 AM
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For what little it is worth my choice for a pronghorn/deer cartridge is a 25-06. My wife also shoots one and is not bothered a bit by it's recoil. It is has a relatively flat trajectory that makes longer range shots fairly easy, however I will not shoot at game at 400 yards and beyond. I have plenty of other rifles that would work just fine for that purpose but to me the 25-06 seems just right.

Considering that your favorite cartridge is the 270 Win there is no real reason not to simply pick it. You can always use light bullets and loads for young shooters. For deer and pronghorn hunting will certainly do everything the popular 6.5 Creedmoor will do, and is more versatile for larger game.

Rifles are a matter of personal preference. Although the Savage is not my cup of tea it would probably serve you well.
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Old 01-20-2019, 01:20 PM
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I have a 270 and am happy with it for deer, black bear and antelope. I've been reading about all of the buzz for the 6.5mm Creedmoor and have been curious. It recoils a bit less than a 270 and can stay supersonic longer. I read the article below and was surprised to see that the 270 can hang with the 6.5CM out to 700 yards. I don't see myself ever getting rid of my 270 but someday I might add a 6.5CM. Maybe even a 6CM to go along with my 243. It's always fun to get a new rifle.


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Old 01-20-2019, 05:29 PM
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Either of those options will work just fine for your needs, along with about 100 other options as well.

I think that the Savage 110, with that stock will suit your needs just fine.

Savage makes a solid rifle that typically shoots excellent.

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Old 01-21-2019, 12:51 PM
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Can't go wrong with either of those choices. The Savage 110 is a great option though for what you're looking for. Very versatile and reliable.
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Old 01-22-2019, 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Uncle View Post
For what little it is worth my choice for a pronghorn/deer cartridge is a 25-06. My wife also shoots one and is not bothered a bit by it's recoil. It is has a relatively flat trajectory that makes longer range shots fairly easy, however I will not shoot at game at 400 yards and beyond. I have plenty of other rifles that would work just fine for that purpose but to me the 25-06 seems just right.
I agree, the 25.06 is perfect for deer and pronghorn, it's a fast flat shooting caliber with mild recoil that hits the target hard and kills deer like lighting. My daughter shoots a .260 which is also the hammer of Thor on deer but if you don't reload ammo may be a little harder to find for the .260.

If you like the .270 then you might as well get one because you're not going to be happy with another caliber. The .270 will serve you well and ammo is widely available just about anywhere. Also nothing wrong with a Savage and most of the ones I've shot are accurate. Good luck in your choice. Mike
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Old 02-02-2019, 06:15 PM
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.243 Win. may be a tad light for a big mulie at 500yds, but perfect for Antelope IMO.

I like the .270win over the .25-06, but that's just me.

6.5creed, or 7mm-08 options to consider, I'm thinking about a 7mm-08 lately, but no plans yet, I like the idea of a 7mm08 in a 20-22" barrel.
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maybe its just because I was employed for 4 decades as an engineer , but I've always made the choice to not take things in advertising seriously, and preferred to deal in facts. you can look up load data, projectile sectional density, ballistic coefficients, rifle weights, and damn near anything else. you need to compare any two cartridges. what youll find in most cases is that similar cartridges with similar projectile weight and diam and velocity, produce similar performance. its not going to make a bit of difference in the field, if you add or subtract a 100 fps or 5 grains of bullet mass. theres very little advantage gained in a choice between a 270 win or 6.5mm creedmoor over practical ranges. what does make a difference is the rifles operator skill's, at placing a shot carefully and the bullets physical properties, example alloys used jacket thickness and impact velocity. you can,t ignore physics, heavier mass and higher velocity carries more energy. you should not ignore decades of field results, theres very few modern cartridges that provide any significant advantages over strong decades old designs like, the 22 hornet, 22-250, 25/06 , 270 win, 30/06 , 300 wby or 375 H&H. step back mentally any time someone is bragging about the newest super zapper, ask yourself if your current rifle has ever failed to perform well, or if an extra few inches of flatter trajectory would make much difference. especially if you realize that the vast majority of game is killed at well under 250 yards. use the calculators and youll soon realize most NEWER/BETTER = marketing. the 22 hornet, 22-250, 25/06 ,270 win, 30/06, 300 wby or 375 H&H will do damn near anything thats needed to be hunted.
https://www.hornady.com/team-hornady...alculators/#!/
http://bergerbullets.com/twist-rate-calculator-3/
http://www.shooterscalculator.com/recoil-calculator.php
https://www.hornady.com/bullets/rifle/#!/
https://www.speer-ammo.com/products/.../rifle-bullets
https://www.hornady.com/support/load-data/
http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/

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Old 02-03-2019, 10:39 AM
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Ditto! There's a reason why the classics are the classics--cause they work.

New calibers are fun for gun nuts to play with and figure out but they only bring certain benefits because they were only designed for specific shooting issues. Take the latest whiz kid 6.5Creedmoor and compare it to the old 270. Ron Spomer did it in the linked article below. The Creedmoor was designed specifically for shooting at 1,000+ yards with a little less recoil so long range competition shooters can shoot even smaller groups. It's a phenomenal caliber and cartridge and stays supersonic out past 1,000 yards. It was designed for competition match shooting at long ranges like that.

Compare it to the 270 which was first released in 1925 and only got better as bullet technology improved. It was designed for hunting and excels at that. The 270 was never designed for long range competition shooting. Yet when you compare the 270 to the Creedmoor ballistically, it holds its' own out to 700 yards which is lots farther than 99+% of us will ever shoot at a big game animal. Most hunters will shoot at less than 250 yards, so that extra performance past 700 yards will never be needed or used in a hunting rifle. You'll pay top dollar for a Creedmoor or one of the other new whiz bang rifles and calibers. You can find used 270's generally with a Leupold or other good scope already on them for a deal all the time. Put some kind of recoil reducing butt pad on it if you're that recoil sensitive and you have the recoil equivalent of a Creedmoor for about a 1/3 of the price and a lot of money left over for hunting.



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