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wild bill g 03-13-2018 12:09 PM

Remington stock desing question.
 
I like my Remington rifles except for one issue. Has anyone else nticed that when shooting them off the bench thatthe trigger guard hits your knuckles. To me it has to do with the straightness of the stock and lack of pronounced pistol grip. This issue is only with harder kicking rifles. I have shot other guns with what look to be similar designed stocks with no issue. Has anyone else noticed this too or is it just me. If you have what was your cure or did you buy another stock?

Oldtimr 03-13-2018 12:25 PM

You can buy a devise that attaches to the back of the trigger guard to take care of that problem. As for me, I like straight stocks, all my sxs shotguns are straight stocks and so is my favorite rifle.

https://connecticutshotgun.com/produ...trigger-guard/

https://www.hastingsdistribution.com...ct_detail&p=50

mrbb 03-14-2018 09:36 AM

I been shooting rem stocked and action guns for a LONG time, and never once had that happen to me, I am guessing its more about your shooting form than the stock design
they sell a huge amount of aftermarket stocks for rem rifles, most are pretty close to same design, some are not

but I again think its your form when shooting that is causing you this issue
a new stock can fix things too, but form sounds like the main cause here for you!
maybe have someone video you when your shooting to see what all is happening, be surprised how that can help with form issue's

buffybr 03-14-2018 10:03 AM

I have two Rem 700 rifles and I have never encountered your problem, however neither of my rifles have the unaltered factory stocks on them.


I re-stocked my .375 RUM with a laminated stock that has a longer length of pull and is more of the Weatherby design.


I still have the Rem plastic stock on my 7 mm Rem mag, but I replaced the factory recoil pad with a 1/2" spacer and a 1" Limbsaver pad.


As with all of my rifles, I work up loads and sight-in my rifles off a bench, but then I do a lot of practice, especially at the 300 and 430 yard gongs, from a prone position.

wild bill g 03-15-2018 05:35 AM

Now that you guys have mentioned form it could be that. Not so much form but at five foot three most guns are long for me. I have cut off a few stocks but hate to do that as most people are a lot taller and resale value is lost if cut off. However it is the Rems not my Sako's or other rifles where this happens. Is the Remington stock just a shade longer than other factory stocks.

mrbb 03-15-2018 06:58 PM

the issue might be the distance from the grip to the trigger, and trimming the end of the stock off WON"T change this for you
I sold guns for yrs(had a gun shop) and that was always a big issue with so called YOUTH guns, they would trim butt pad area of stock to make things shorter, yet smaller hands and fingers still struggled to get a GOOD grip and trigger placement
the GOOD news IF your wiling to look is they sell a TON of stocks for a REM 700 action, and there should be many that have different grips closer to the trigger for you, for your smaller frame and hands

there are always TONS of used stocks too for sale, as SO many guys BUY a gun and BUILD off the actions, and toss the OEM stocks, or just upgrade
check out custom rifle builders web sites, MANY sell these take off stocks, fairly cheap, and MANY custom rifle makers KNOW what stocks might have different distances from trigger to grip, so you can also ask them about that when looking for take off stock IF you wish to mod a used stock rather than ruin your's

also, maybe measure the distance on your rifles that fit you better and see how far off the REM is to them

Nomercy448 03-16-2018 04:58 AM

I occasionally get slapped by the trigger guard on factory stocks. Mine is a wrist mobility problem - too many years of riding bulls has left me with little ulnar deviation, so my fingers usually lose contact with straighter gripped stocks, and my index finger just hangs out in space. On video, it sure looks like my finger is the part flying into the back of the trigger guard, rather than the other way around. It’s just a matter of discipline for me to remember to keep my fingers in tight to the stock, instead of letting my hand float.

Or better still, my solution is indeed changing to stocks with better fitting grip angles so my fingers all find happy homes, snug against the stock.

Ridge Runner 03-18-2018 04:54 AM

I like more of a vertical pistol grip, like the Micky A3, A5 etc.
RR

wild bill g 03-18-2018 06:31 AM

That is what iI was thinking something like a thumb hole design. Also maybe the less distance between the pistol grip and trigger guard might help.

Ridge Runner 03-18-2018 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by wild bill g (Post 4330947)
That is what iI was thinking something like a thumb hole design. Also maybe the less distance between the pistol grip and trigger guard might help.

Boyds makes a decent not expensive laminated sporter thumbhole however it must be bedded or prone to split.
RR

wild bill g 03-18-2018 01:03 PM

We can get Boyds up here and yes they are very affordable. I like synthetics stocks more but they are quite costly up here thanks to our low dollar.

mrbb 03-18-2018 02:33 PM

its NOT just the stock, its hopw the stock fet this person, if they have small hands, odds are they need a stock with a grip closer to the trigger, , so they can have a better hold on the gun, just swapping stocks(as many just copy the OEM for grip location and size) isn't going to change the distance on the grip to trigger,

I would suggest to measure from grip to first stock bolt hole and current stock and any possible replacement one's
so you can get a better idea if "X" brand stock is any better or not before spending any money
a thumb hole stock, will most likely also have the same distances or Worse, as many have like a palm swell, and if this OP has a small hand, that can make matters worse for them, as there part of the hand getting hit at recoil will still be there to get hit
MIGHT allow some more meat to hols, but again if small hands now are getting hit, its most likely due to they cannot hold onto the current stock properly and the hand is coming off and getting HIT
so a larger thumb hole or palm swelled stock small hands cannot hold tight enough I guess and come off at recoil

sort of a form issue due to size of shooter here I think

wild bill g 03-18-2018 03:34 PM

I actually tend to hold all stocks with a light grip. The more we grip the stock the more hand shake we add. I also do not hold the fore arm of the stock when I shoot. The gun just sits on the bags and I squeeze the trigger. A palm swell like my old Tikka's have actually seems to help. It is like the Remington stocks come straight back into my fingers. Winchester stocks don't and for the most part they look a lot like the Remington stocks.

mrbb 03-18-2018 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by wild bill g (Post 4330985)
I actually tend to hold all stocks with a light grip. The more we grip the stock the more hand shake we add. I also do not hold the fore arm of the stock when I shoot. The gun just sits on the bags and I squeeze the trigger. A palm swell like my old Tikka's have actually seems to help. It is like the Remington stocks come straight back into my fingers. Winchester stocks don't and for the most part they look a lot like the Remington stocks.

I agree with you on NOT squeezing the stock tight like
but after so many yrs of selling guns, and seeing kids and women and smaller framed men, I have seen how its not just how they hold the stock, its the stock itself , the grip just being far from the trigger, ,. so they end up NOT holding the stock right at all, to get a good finger contact with the trigger, which then seems to cause the recoil to hit them as there sort of free floating there hand as to actually holding the stock
as again, MOST Youth gins just have shorter butt stocks, and that does NOTHING for there hands and fingers reaching the trigger better
there are a couple guns out there now that actually corrected this issue, by making there guns FIT properly smaller handed and arms shooters
which is again why I suggest measuring the grip to stock mounting hole, as if you measure this distance, you can look at stocks that have closer measurements than a the current stock and find one that might fit a LOT better! and work better for the OP
over trading the gun in on a different rifle maybe, as JUST buying a different stock WON"T assure them its any better without knowing the measurement before hand!

wild bill g 03-19-2018 06:36 AM

Do you think it would be possible to alter the stock in the wrist grip area. Or would this kind of alteration weaken a stock to much.

mrbb 03-19-2018 07:39 AM

palm swells can be added, so I am sure you can mod a stock to help,m if you have the skills
but if it was me I would just talk to a sock builder and see what they can do , many will work with you and they have the means to make it right and look well and last long
think about it this way, MOST folks own a rifle a LONG time, so, its money well spent call it an investment, make shooting more enjoyable and hunting too
its why a well fitting shotgun makes you a better shooter
same with any gun,
one that fits you better you will shoot it better, working together over fighting things
and again there are YOUTH like rifles with these mods already in place

wild bill g 04-04-2018 03:08 PM

I am seriously thinking of a Boyds thumb hole now. I have a Savage Bmag with the thumb hole stock and really like the feel of it. Although mrbb mentioned a palm swell wich my old Tikka has and that has a great feel too.


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