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tealboy 01-05-2016 04:02 PM

Ok, got the new used gun and here it is
 
Some of you have been following my previous post, something that evolved from selling inherited guns to buy my own new gun to a friend offering a 30-06 that he never used. I generally know what it was but without having it in my hands, some of it was guesswork.

Well, it arrived and it is a little less than I expected but still ok, I think. The gun is in fact a 30-06, it is a remington 700 and it is synthetic with a drop mag and a stainless barrel.

What it's not is, a higher end synthetic stock with the rubber inserts in the grips and the scope is not a vxiii but rather a zeiss conquest. All that is fine, but what surprised me most was, the barrel was not in great shape. It has very light surface rust in a number of places and looked slightly dirty, discolored. Apparently, it was stored in the Skb foam case and wasn't oiled so the humidity in Florida caused this condition.

I took it to the gun shop and they said based on condition and the fact that hunting season is almost over plus, they were pretty heavy one guns they would only pay $325. They suggested I keep it and use steel wool and oil to polish the barrel. Said the bore was in nice shape and the barrel could be cleaned up nicely. Said optics were in great shape.

All that said, I was offered the gun For a little more than that by my friend but he threw in the Skb single gun case for free. The small catch is, this gun has a trigger recall by remington and he can't find the keys for the Skb.

Can I get replacement keys from Skb? Also, what do you suggest re cleaning up the barrel? I have 600 grit wet dry sandpaper and suspect that, along with wd40 or oil is better than steel wool. Thoughts?

I think I did well on the gun but need to shoot it to be sure, that's the part that matters most.

Oldtimr 01-05-2016 04:07 PM

Do not use sandpaper on the barrel, use 000 or 000 steelwool and a light oil. Quite frankly, with your lack of knowledge, you would be better served dealing with a reputable gun shop than the internet for advice.

bronko22000 01-05-2016 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Oldtimr (Post 4237829)
Do not use sandpaper on the barrel, use 000 or 000 steelwool and a light oil. Quite frankly, with your lack of knowledge, you would be better served dealing with a reputable gun shop than the internet for advice.

A little gun oil and steel wool should remove all the mild surface rust. Just don't get too aggressive. Just enough buffing to remove the rust.

tealboy 01-05-2016 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Oldtimr (Post 4237829)
Do not use sandpaper on the barrel, use 000 or 000 steelwool and a light oil. Quite frankly, with your lack of knowledge, you would be better served dealing with a reputable gun shop than the internet for advice.

Fair enough but at the same time, this isn't rocket science nor an expensive gun. A few small tips like yours leads me to dig a little further and I've found several good videos that has showed me what to do. I have spent a little time on it and the results are really impressive, the barrel is looking great. With a microscope it would be apparent that the surface isn't perfect but it is a hunting rifle that on the surface, looks really nice now. Thank u for the help.

Also, re Skb case, one quick call and keys are in the mail, sent free of charge. That was a nice surprise

super_hunt54 01-05-2016 06:26 PM

teal, I personally would do a complete breakdown of that rifle. Definitely pull the barreled receiver from the stock. If there is surface rust on top then you can bet there is rust where you can't see. Pull the scope base as well because more than likely there will be rust there as well. Humidity can get into places over time when they have sat in one of those foam rubber gun cases. I would also get some JB bore paste http://www.brownells.com/gun-cleanin...-prod1160.aspx and run that 50-100 swipes down the bore to make sure you have a nice bright bore.

Nomercy448 01-05-2016 06:49 PM

You might be surprised how much surface rust will wipe right off with a good gun oil and a paper towel. I personally use blue disposable shop towels for this most of the time (rags in a box, available at most automotive or home improvement stores).

Foam lined cases are the devil. Guns should spend as little time as possible in any case.

Nomercy448 01-05-2016 06:49 PM

Wait a min...

I got a new gun and here it is... With no pics?????

super_hunt54 01-05-2016 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Nomercy448 (Post 4237858)
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Foam lined cases are the devil. Guns should spend as little time as possible in any case.

Dey is da DEBBIL Bobby da DEBBIL an don't yew fergit it!! :D

tealboy 01-06-2016 02:32 AM

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Re: Nomercy's reference to where are the pics.?

Lol. Good point. I was intending it as a clarification to what it actually turned out to be vs what i was speculating it was but fair point. I will pop a pic up this evening though i cant say that it is any kindnof eye candy. ��

Regarding breakdown, i did pull barrel from stick and as onebposter said, you can bet there is some surface rust there too, and there was. Have not pulled the scope, yet.

alleyyooper 01-06-2016 03:21 AM

:jaw: a Remington 700 and it is synthetic with a drop mag and a stainless barrel nor an expensive gun.

Your joking right?
It sure isn't a Savage axis, Ruger American, Remington 783 or 770.

That gun shop you took it to would give you $325. for it and turn around and sell it for well over 400 with a scope.

At a local gun shop and with a Bushnell scope $499.00
http://shop.williamsgunsight.com/mor...ucts.aspx&ai=M

To remove the rust I would have tried a simple eraser used to erase pencil mistakes. Many time if the rust isn't real bad that would do the trick.


:D Al

Big Uncle 01-06-2016 06:55 AM

You got an absolutely wonderful deal on that rifle.

Bob H in NH 01-06-2016 08:19 AM

On the Remington trigger deal, go to their site and check, I THINK (not sure here) that based on the markings on the bolt your gun isn't included in the recall.

If so, it's a simple send it in, or bring to a certified repair shop.

Topgun 3006 01-06-2016 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by Bob H in NH (Post 4237924)
On the Remington trigger deal, go to their site and check, I THINK (not sure here) that based on the markings on the bolt your gun isn't included in the recall.

If so, it's a simple send it in, or bring to a certified repair shop.

IMHO I'd go with an aftermarket trigger while he has the gun broken down right now and be done with it. He'll still be well ahead of the game with the money he has involved with that gun/scope combination if he does that and will have piece of mind and not be shipping it off somewhere.

tealboy 01-06-2016 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by Bob H in NH (Post 4237924)
On the Remington trigger deal, go to their site and check, I THINK (not sure here) that based on the markings on the bolt your gun isn't included in the recall.

If so, it's a simple send it in, or bring to a certified repair shop.

Its definately included in the recall. I checked. Good news is, rem makes it easy with one important exception. U must remove all accessories incl the scope so as someone who doesnt get too deep into gunsmith work, i will need to take it to the local shop for bore sighting and mounting then to the range for sighting. I tried to put insurance on the scope but with call tags it is not permitted. I would need to ahip insure and pay for the whole thing otherwise, a $35 ish expense.

Mojotex 01-06-2016 11:33 AM

Based upon your description of the rifle & scope combination, I'd consider the $325 offer as almost comical. Depending upon the Conquest model, the scope, if in great shape, alone would retail for around $300-$350 used.

You have gotten some great advice already. I certainly agree with staying away from sand paper .... and taking it apart to give it a thorough cleaning. As for the discolored SS ... SS will oxidize. Simply keeping it protected with a high quality rust preventative product made specifically for use on firearms is a simple, effective and inexpensive process. I'd suggest soaking both the bolt assembly and trigger assembly in a high quality gun cleaning type solvent for a couple of hours. Might be some old gummy gun oil or gun grease residue on surfaces of these parts. That stuff needs to be outta there! The bore should be bright and slick. If not, for sure it bodes well to clean it too. If not "polished" looking, you might conside running Remington brand Bore Cleaner through it ... maybe 4 to 6 passes. That product is a super fine abbrasive suspended in a oily lubricant. It does a fine job of polishing. I would not however run it through the bore more than a few passes. Should not have to anyway. The Remington 700 factory trigger is adjustable. If you do not know how to do this, take it to a good gunsmith and see if you might want the pull weight changed. Sounds like you got a nice rifle/scope combo for sure.

WV Hunter 01-06-2016 12:00 PM

Gun was worth that without the scope.
Nice deal, your friend did you a solid...or he ain't too bright. :)

Mr. Longbeard 01-07-2016 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by alleyyooper (Post 4237893)
:jaw: a Remington 700 and it is synthetic with a drop mag and a stainless barrel nor an expensive gun.

Your joking right?
It sure isn't a Savage axis, Ruger American, Remington 783 or 770.

That gun shop you took it to would give you $325. for it and turn around and sell it for well over 400 with a scope.

At a local gun shop and with a Bushnell scope $499.00
http://shop.williamsgunsight.com/mor...ucts.aspx&ai=M

To remove the rust I would have tried a simple eraser used to erase pencil mistakes. Many time if the rust isn't real bad that would do the trick.


:D Al




Yea tell me about it lol that's a nice rifle!!!

Mr. Slim 01-09-2016 08:56 AM

I think the gun shop was trying to rip you off. he would have made a good profit if he got that rifle and a ziess scope and only paid you 325 for it. the ziess scope probably sell for that much. from the picture it looks like the rifle has a matte finish on the stainless barrel and action. use steel wool as fine as 000 or 0000 and oil to clean up any surface rust don't buff too hard or it might change the matte finish to a shiny one. like one of the posts said, take the barrel and action off the stock and make sure you get all rust removed.

tealboy 01-09-2016 04:17 PM

The gun came out great. Looks like new. Yea, it does look more shiny than the orig matte but looks fantastic. Very happy with it. I did pull the barrel and action from the stock, there was some slight surface rust but it all cleaned up nicely. Gun heading to the gunsmith on Thursday for the trigger replacement. Remington is issuing a call tag and has delivered a free shipping box so all good

CalHunter 01-09-2016 07:11 PM

Late to the party but if you were to still think you got a less than good deal, just offer it in this forum for your purchase price from your friend. I'd bet you get a LOT of takers. :D:D

super_hunt54 01-09-2016 11:41 PM

I don't even really like newer Remingtons and I would be all over that deal :D

PigBrick 01-14-2016 04:35 PM

The action alone is worth what you paid. Shoot the dang thing. already!


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