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JonMBailey 04-14-2014 01:07 AM

Remember, a GUN is a TOOL, not a WEAPON.
 
Hunters and decent law-abiding American citizens should never refer to their guns as 'weapons'.

Weapons are for soldiers in war, law enforcement or thugs who murder the innocent.

An elderly gentleman who was an NRA hunter safety instructor once told me all about this.

Please take some of the public negativity out of the sport of hunting by NOT referring to the likes of your Remington 1100 self-loading shotgun as a WEAPON.

GUN, a popular term in children's story books, sounds more innocent, cuddly, warm and endearing than WEAPON.

homers brother 04-14-2014 03:26 AM

It makes a difference? Is that why the liberals speak about "weapon control"?

Maybe we should call them "arms", since that's what the 2nd Amendment refers to?

Bullcamp82834 04-14-2014 05:16 AM

Suddenly the "tool" that I "harvest" game with becomes a "weapon" that I "kill" with when some thug kicks in my front door.

Word games.

JonMBailey 04-14-2014 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by homers brother (Post 4134144)
It makes a difference? Is that why the liberals speak about "weapon control"?

Maybe we should call them "arms", since that's what the 2nd Amendment refers to?


Thugs use knives to kill people too but the lefty-pinkos don't call for 'knife control' either.

My hunting knife is still called a KNIFE or TOOL by me. Binoculars and decoys and dogs are another hunting TOOL.

Son-of-an-ARM, I need to go check my morning coffee!

JonMBailey 04-14-2014 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by Bullcamp82834 (Post 4134161)
Suddenly the "tool" that I "harvest" game with becomes a "weapon" that I "kill" with when some thug kicks in my front door.

Word games.

If some bad guy comes in my home, I still have a formidable TOOL for self-preservation, my GUN.

homers brother 04-14-2014 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by Bullcamp82834 (Post 4134161)
Word games.

It doesn't matter what we call it, the antis will try to ban it.

CalHunter 04-14-2014 10:03 AM

I've always referred to the different firearms I've had or shot as guns or rifles, pistols, shotguns, etc. In the Marines, we called M-16's rifles, not weapons or assault rifles. We also referred to pistols as a pistol or even a .45 (yes, we had real pistols back then ;)) and shotguns were shotguns. In police work, we also called them pistols, shotguns and rifles. You wouldn't write a police report and just refer to an object as a "weapon" without describing it in more detail such as a pistol, knife, rock, scissors, bat, etc.

Putting all this semantics aside, I agree wholeheartedly with homers brother and bullcamp. Regardless of what you call them, the antis will still try to ban them cause that's what they do, like a rattlesnake trying to bite you. And all of us that own guns will use them as we need to because....


that's what we do. :D

burniegoeasily 04-14-2014 11:19 AM

My guns are man toys. My arms are my weapons. Right arm is named Devastation and the left arm is named Destruction.

CalHunter 04-14-2014 11:23 AM

:eek2::eek2::eek2::D:D:D:D

burniegoeasily 04-14-2014 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by CalHunter (Post 4134224)
I've always referred to the different firearms I've had or shot as guns or rifles, pistols, shotguns, etc. In the Marines, we called M-16's rifles, not weapons or assault rifles. We also referred to pistols as a pistol or even a .45 (yes, we had real pistols back then ;)) and shotguns were shotguns. In police work, we also called them pistols, shotguns and rifles. You wouldn't write a police report and just refer to an object as a "weapon" without describing it in more detail such as a pistol, knife, rock, scissors, bat, etc.

Putting all this semantics aside, I agree wholeheartedly with homers brother and bullcamp. Regardless of what you call them, the antis will still try to ban them cause that's what they do, like a rattlesnake trying to bite you. And all of us that own guns will use them as we need to because....


that's what we do. :D

I'm in the same boat. A pistol was a semi auto handgun; Revolver, is a revolver handgun; Rifle is a rifle and a shotgun is a shotgun. Never referred to any as a weapon. If I was being attacked and had to use any to defend myself, then I guess it would be a weapon.

AS you stated, semantics is just B.S.. Doesn't matter what you call anything, it will make no difference to the antis and the ignorant.

burniegoeasily 04-14-2014 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by CalHunter (Post 4134243)
:eek2::eek2::eek2::D:D:D:D

My daughter calls hers, Pain and Sorrow.

Ridge Runner 04-14-2014 11:39 AM

doesn't matter what you call them, as long as we have them the left knows that they can't force they're sick distorted views of how society is supposed to work on us, they will keep trying to ban them even if we call them feathers.
RR

Big Uncle 04-14-2014 12:30 PM

The only civilian people that I hear calling their rifles, pistols, etc. "weapons" at the wannabe sniper tacticool dudes (duds).

CalHunter 04-14-2014 12:33 PM

;);):happy0001::happy0001::happy0001:

Bullcamp82834 04-14-2014 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by Big Uncle (Post 4134262)
The only civilian people that I hear calling their rifles, pistols, etc. "weapons" at the wannabe sniper tacticool dudes (duds).

I've known women whose mouths could accurately be described as weapons.

It really hurt !!!!!

CalHunter 04-14-2014 03:27 PM

Run Forest, run!! :D

SecondChance 04-14-2014 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by Bullcamp82834 (Post 4134293)
I've known women whose mouths could accurately be described as weapons.

It really hurt !!!!!

You know my ex-wife to, huh? LMAO!!!!!

Nomercy448 04-14-2014 07:46 PM

I make a point of NOT using the word "gun". I'm not perfect at avoiding it, but I do make a conscious effort to go back and replace "gun" whenever I type it. Rifle, pistol, revolver, shotgun, firearm....

I do, actually, quite often use the word "weapon" to describe a firearm. "My weapon of choice for coyote hunting" (which is kinda just a vernacular, as I use the saying "weapon of choice" for many things that aren't weapons at all, as in my 'weapon of choice' for cutting trees is a 22" Husqvarna), or "my concealed carry weapon...", which I certainly believe is fitting for the application.

Frankly, it's no better than smoking bunkweed to think avoiding the word "weapon" is going to stop ANYONE from coming after your "guns". Again, it's "gun control," not "weapon control".

JonMBailey 04-14-2014 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by Nomercy448 (Post 4134333)
I make a point of NOT using the word "gun". I'm not perfect at avoiding it, but I do make a conscious effort to go back and replace "gun" whenever I type it. Rifle, pistol, revolver, shotgun, firearm....

I do, actually, quite often use the word "weapon" to describe a firearm. "My weapon of choice for coyote hunting" (which is kinda just a vernacular, as I use the saying "weapon of choice" for many things that aren't weapons at all, as in my 'weapon of choice' for cutting trees is a 22" Husqvarna), or "my concealed carry weapon...", which I certainly believe is fitting for the application.

Frankly, it's no better than smoking bunkweed to think avoiding the word "weapon" is going to stop ANYONE from coming after your "guns". Again, it's "gun control," not "weapon control".


GUN CONTROL is a steady aim.

Having been in the military has also made me sick of the word WEAPON and camo clothing (pickle suits).

GUN is the most appropriate civilian term for something that launches lead from a tube at high rates of speed.

I aim (no pun intended) to be a gentleman hunter and law-abiding American armed citizen, not a wannabe tacticool relpi-Rambo.

Here are but just some tube-fired lead-launching tools for gents:

Bullcamp82834 04-15-2014 03:49 AM

My simple country lingo calls any handgun I'm carrying "my pistol".
When I'm big game hunting it's "my rifle" I'm carrying.
If I'm hunting birds I tote "my shotgun".

Back when I was a firearms instructor in law enforcement I used the word "weapon" a lot. Don't have much need for that word anymore.

flags 04-15-2014 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by Bullcamp82834 (Post 4134365)
My simple country lingo calls any handgun I'm carrying "my pistol".
When I'm big game hunting it's "my rifle" I'm carrying.
If I'm hunting birds I tote "my shotgun".

Yep. Same here. The only things I called weapons were my issued M-4 battle rifle and my issued 9mm. Then I called the M-4 the primary and the 9mm the secondary. Machine guns such as the M-2, the M-240, the MK-19 and the MK-44 were all crew served weapons since it took more than one person to keep them shooting.

However, as others have already noted, it doesn't matter what you call them because some brain dead dolt will want to outlaw them.

homers brother 04-15-2014 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by flags (Post 4134369)
Yep. Same here. The only things I called weapons were my issued M-4 battle rifle and my issued 9mm. Then I called the M-4 the primary and the 9mm the secondary. Machine guns such as the M-2, the M-240, the MK-19 and the MK-44 were all crew served weapons since it took more than one person to keep them shooting.

Good Lord you Navy guys make things complicated.

Murdy 04-15-2014 05:56 AM

When I was in the Army, we called M-16s weapons (I think weapon may have become the preferred term in the wake of Full Metal Jacket: "This is my weapon, this is my gun . . ."); gun referred to machine guns (or a mortar crew, i.e., 2 Gun); and I don't remember what we called pistols.

More seriously, I think perception counts a little. Not for the antis, but for the people in the middle who haven't made up their minds, or those who are not anti gun or hunting per se but might support some restrictive laws they believe are reasonable.

burniegoeasily 04-15-2014 08:22 AM

Anti's will use what ever they want. If they wanted bats banned, they will call a bat an assault club. If they wanted pointed sticks banned, they will call them assault sticks.

CalHunter 04-15-2014 08:33 AM

I believe the training in boot camp went something like this: This one's my rifle, this one's my gun......

Bullcamp82834 04-15-2014 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by burniegoeasily (Post 4134396)
Anti's will use what ever they want. If they wanted bats banned, they will call a bat an assault club. If they wanted pointed sticks banned, they will call them assault sticks.

If someone stabs a person to death with a screwdriver I guess it's now an "assault tool".

Or to take it to an even more absurd level...... a rapist murders his female victim by strangling her with her own lace stockings. Now we have.... Heaven help us..... assault lingerie.

homers brother 04-15-2014 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Bullcamp82834 (Post 4134436)
Heaven help us..... assault lingerie.

Yes, Heaven help us. LMAO.

JonMBailey 04-15-2014 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by Bullcamp82834 (Post 4134365)
My simple country lingo calls any handgun I'm carrying "my pistol".
When I'm big game hunting it's "my rifle" I'm carrying.
If I'm hunting birds I tote "my shotgun".

Back when I was a firearms instructor in law enforcement I used the word "weapon" a lot. Don't have much need for that word anymore.

In the military, I was compelled to call an M16 a 'weapon', whether I like it or not, but calling an M60 a "gun" was acceptable. Being a civilian now, I no longer have any use for playing that jazz. I was never fond of the military and I try to forget it as much as possible. I am a total civilian now and my semantics bare witness to that as well.

Once the listener or reader understands what kind of gun I am talking about in a conversation be it a rifle, revolver, self-loading handgun, machine gun, paint gun, air gun, BB gun, staple gun, shotgun or muzzleloader, the term GUN is used by me from then on. :cool2:

It is a very simple word to say and type and I like the sound of this three-letter word like Johnny Carson was fond of the word HAT.

burniegoeasily 04-16-2014 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by Bullcamp82834 (Post 4134436)
If someone stabs a person to death with a screwdriver I guess it's now an "assault tool".

Or to take it to an even more absurd level...... a rapist murders his female victim by strangling her with her own lace stockings. Now we have.... Heaven help us..... assault lingerie.

There might be a caveat to that one. Because liberals say a women only needs to urinate herself or vomit to stop a rape. So in their eyes, she deserved the death if she did not do the above, therefore exonerating the lingerie.

cammogunner 04-16-2014 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Bullcamp82834 (Post 4134161)
Suddenly the "tool" that I "harvest" game with becomes a "weapon" that I "kill" with when some thug kicks in my front door.

Word games.

ha ha i like it


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