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Old 05-07-2013, 12:35 PM
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Here's my $.02 on the idea of taking 600-700 yards shots.

As Ridgerunner stated, and in my view, it will take a great rifle-scope set-up and I'll add to this a lot of practice to become proficient enough to day in and day out take game cleanly at distances such as this.

Considering that most non-customized rifles, including the Savage 111, can be expected to do not much better than 1 MOA regardless of ammo, hand loaded or factory. Even with a .75 MOA set up, you are already looking at about 3"-5" variation in point of impact at 500-600-700 yards. Add any sort of wiggle on the shooter's part and you can add another few to several inches. And managing drop ... say about 3 feet +/- of elevation hold over for typical 180 gr. , 300 Win. Mag. load and say a cross wind of 10 mph .... another 6"-8" of correction. Add a racing heart from hustling to get into position or a touch of adrenalin induced "buck fever" .... 500-700 yards is not so easy a task, even with an ideal rest.
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Old 05-10-2013, 12:02 PM
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i agree. nothing wrong with the 3006 for what you want to hunt.
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Old 05-11-2013, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by emtrescue6
Long story...but IMO the 30-06 is the most overrated caliber there ever was...I'll take any of the 308's in my safe over an -06 any day...just me. Two bad experiences years ago (which were both probably the result of crappy bullets more than the rifle... now that I am a little more educated)...I don't need a heavier bullet...150's and 165's do everything I have ever asked of them and everything I have ever needed...just more accurately and with less recoil. But then again, I am not commonly considered a heavy bullet guy...tend to shoot at the lighter end of the spectrum in most my rifles. Fast and flat...some people don't like the 270 the way I do...I just don't like the -06.
How is it over rated?it does exactly what its suppose to,bad bullets can cause failier in any caliber.i stated i perfur the 180 grains because i like to use the same load for everything from moose to large bodied deer.if you dont like the 06 thats fine i was just curiouse if it was for a valid reason or just out because of preferance.the 06 is not over rated one bit,it deserves all the recognition it gets,its earned it in ways most other calibers never will.
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Old 05-11-2013, 05:44 PM
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My rem 700 in 06 also shoots the 180 grains alot better then lighter bullets.so i shoot what the gun likes
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Old 05-11-2013, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by skinnnner
How is it over rated?it does exactly what its suppose to,bad bullets can cause failier in any caliber.i stated i perfur the 180 grains because i like to use the same load for everything from moose to large bodied deer.if you dont like the 06 thats fine i was just curiouse if it was for a valid reason or just out because of preferance.the 06 is not over rated one bit,it deserves all the recognition it gets,its earned it in ways most other calibers never will.
I did say in my opinion it's the most overrated caliber out there...and in my opinion it is...you are free to your opinions and I won't criticize them...as I said, my 308 loaded with 150g or 165g bullets will do everything the '06 will and will do so more accurately...as proven many a time over. It's not personal, I just dislike the '06 and feel it's highly overrated.
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by emtrescue6
I did say in my opinion it's the most overrated caliber out there...and in my opinion it is...you are free to your opinions and I won't criticize them...as I said, my 308 loaded with 150g or 165g bullets will do everything the '06 will and will do so more accurately...as proven many a time over. It's not personal, I just dislike the '06 and feel it's highly overrated.
Intreasting considering they both shoot the same bullet the 06 just does it a bit faster,as far as accuracy goes i think the advantage the 08 has is of no real diffrence to 99.9 percent of people that hunt.but to each their own,the 06 will always have a place in my gun collection.
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:14 PM
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Id also like to add carlos hathcock did great things with both calibers.
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Old 05-12-2013, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by skinnnner
Intreasting considering they both shoot the same bullet the 06 just does it a bit faster,as far as accuracy goes i think the advantage the 08 has is of no real diffrence to 99.9 percent of people that hunt.but to each their own,the 06 will always have a place in my gun collection.
And that my friend is why there are so many different calibers! I am also a big fan of the WSM and WSSM calibers, which many are not. I have a safe-and-a-half full of firearms...some have turned into safe queens (like my custom shop Rem 700 7mm Mag is one such gun...I hate it...it kicks like a mule and just isn't pleasant to shoot...I'll trade it off at some point)...I'll use my 7mm-08 to take advantage of the high BC bullets offered in .284...LOL. I am not completely opposed to the '06 parent case as I really love my .270, just the '06...LOL Happy hunting Skinner!
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Old 05-12-2013, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by emtrescue6
And that my friend is why there are so many different calibers! I am also a big fan of the WSM and WSSM calibers, which many are not. I have a safe-and-a-half full of firearms...some have turned into safe queens (like my custom shop Rem 700 7mm Mag is one such gun...I hate it...it kicks like a mule and just isn't pleasant to shoot...I'll trade it off at some point)...I'll use my 7mm-08 to take advantage of the high BC bullets offered in .284...LOL. I am not completely opposed to the '06 parent case as I really love my .270, just the '06...LOL Happy hunting Skinner!
My main rifle these days is also a 270 wsm,happy hunting to you also
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Old 05-12-2013, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by skinnnner
My main rifle these days is also a 270 wsm,happy hunting to you also
Yeah my day-o-day all around favorite rifle in the safe these days is my 270WSM....love love love it!
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