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Ruger m77 mk II or Savage 116?
Right now i have an old mosin for hunting but am saving for a nicer rifle/scope combo in 270 win,
I was thinking staying in the WWII spirit and buying a Kar98k to chop up and sporterize but realized by the time i converted to 270, and set up the way i want id be spending more than i would for a ruger and have the same action (with the history/ruining of)... i really love the mauser action and the look of the ruger mk II and hawkeye, the savage on the other hand has that accu trigger that feels amazing... but they look ugly and dont have the "pride in ownership" i guess the ruger has (imo.) i know the game wont know the difference and its all a personal choice just looking for opinions. ive done a bit of reading and i kno the 700s are good, howas, weatherbys, and tikkas are all good but im really just looking at these for this comparison right now, and if i found a deal on one of the others id go for it without worry. i kno they are both accurate and reliable this is really a more of an opinion thing, whos shot them and what did you think? thanks |
If it was me I'd go with the ruger 77 hawkeye. Trigger is 1/2 way decent, they shoot very well ( I know that everyone says savages shoot great but that's not my experience, my experience is that they shoot 2" mol @ 100). I like the feel of the ruger, I like the way the front screw pulls the recoil lug back into the stock and is part of the action. Both will work for you, both will put venison on the table, both are american made, good luck with your decision
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i love shooting my dads ruger m77 hawkeye. its got a really smooth action. It shoots great as well. i cant speak for the savage because i have never shot one but you can't go wrong with a ruger.
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I have a Ruger M77 International 30.06. It has an 18 1/2 incc barrel and is very accurate. I would much rather own the Ruger than the Savage but If it were my money, I'd be getting a 700.
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Ruger for sure.
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In my experience a Ruger will never fail you...BUT, their triggers are junk (at best), they are heavier and they are no where near as accurate as most of their competitors, IMO! I own several Ruger's...but they no longer make it to the field with me to hunt, and haven't for years...but also am not a huge fan of controlled feed (Mauser) type actions...
For the same $$ you can get a rifle that has an easily adjustable high quality trigger, quality stock, and MOA or even SUB-MOA guarantee (or course that means nothing if the shooter doesn't do their part). IMO, very few Ruger's consistently shoot MOA out of the box...Ruger's biggest benefit in my opinion is that they are indestructible...a necessary quality for some, like my younger brother...LOL and they will perform equally well in heat, rain, snow, cold...etc! My favorite rifle of the moment is my Tikka in 270 WSM...fell in love with it the first day I shot it... 1/2 MOA performance as long as I do my part (even with factory ammo), the bolt is butter smooth, the trigger is a dream (took 2 mins to adjust it to my preferred setting), and it cost less than $600 new. I don't care for the stock, trigger guard and cheap feeling box magazine...but the pluses out weight the minuses so far. Others I love...I have 2 older Remington BDL's, also long time favorites...they have beautiful wood stocks, nice triggers (after professional work), smooth as butter bolts and both shoot MOA most days (again, it's up to the shooter to do their part). The 270 I have in the 700 BDL is one of my all-time favorite rifles...but that being said, I don't much care for the newer Remmy's... Browning A-Bolt...I have a newer A-Bolt that I also love, nice trigger (adjustable), shoots consistent MOA with just about anything I put in it. Great wood, clean lines and very easy to carry. I dislike the box magazine design that Browning continues to use... Savage...one of my other new favorites. Great triggers, I love my Model 93 in 17 HMR! I have a Model 10 FLCP-K in 308 on order and can't wait to get it! Butter smooth bolts, accu-trigger and accu-stocked versions seem to be crowd favorites and perform MOA or better. I don't like the cheap looking wood on the wood models, but not many manufactures aren't using great wood anymore. Bottom line...most deer are shot inside 100 yards...any of the rifles mentioned will deliver the accuracy needed to kill deer out to 200 yards easily...find the rifle that fits you best and meets your needs and makes you happy! Happy hunting! |
Rugers are very accurate but you have to either replace the trigger or have a compitent gunsmith clean it up, also they usually need to be free floated, but once that is done they will shoot as good as any other hunting rifle on the market. JMO. Go with the Ruger.
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They are both good rifles i have shot both , its all gonna be up to you what you want .If it was my money Id buy another barrell for my pro hunter , IMO out shoot both models mentioned
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Ruger. Good luck.
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I like the feel of the Ruger over the Savage.
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I use Ruger's for big game but I have a Savage MKII BV in .22Lr and it to is a great shooter.
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I have several of the Ruger the M77 MKII's. In all different calibers. All of them shoot good. To be honest I have probably a half dozen or more I've never fired.The triggers can be dressed up well by someone that knows what they are doing.I had a friend that was killed do a few of mine and they are great triggers now. Breaking just under 3lbs. I have a new Hawkeye in 300 WM that has never been fired.
I wouldn't call the Ruger's a target rifle by any means. They are plenty accurate enough for hunting.I have never worked loads up for them all I've ever shot has been factory.I'm sure I could fine tune them if I took the time to work up a load for them.One thing about buying a Ruger if there is a problem with it they will make it right. I have no experience with a Savage. From reading about them I wouldn't hesitate buying one.I have friends who swear by the Savages. |
Cant say much about the savage, never owned one, but have shot a few that friends have owned. Most of them shot decent, I never really cared for the fabricated bolt they have. I do own 3 ruger rifles and the are fine guns, all shoot very well. Mine are all older rugers, dont own a hawkeye. There triggers are kind of stout out of the box, but they can be adjusted by a gunsmith without any trouble. Mine are set on 3lbs without any creep. If I was gonna buy a new rifle I would look long and hard at another ruger.
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I have a Ruger 77 Mk II all-weather SS in .300 Win Mag I bought new almost 20 years ago. Right out of the box I could feed it anything and it would shoot 1/2" groups at 100 yards all day long. I could change bullet weights and it would still group in the same hole. It STILL shoots that good and has been the best rifle I've had the pleasure of owning. And bad triggers? The trigger pull is stiff (five pounds) but it's crisp and no travel and as good as any I've used. You can't shoot 1/2" groups with a bad trigger. If you shoot bench rest and have pulled all the high dollar triggers maybe you wouldn't like it but if you just hunt it's all you need. Did I mention when I bought it I put on a Nikon Monarch 3-9 X 40 scope and in those 20 years never once had to change the scope settings. That says alot about Rugers rings and mounting system (and of course Nikon scopes).
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While I don't dislike the Ruger, if I cared about accuracy, I'd go with the Savage hands down. I've yet to see a Savage that wouldn't shoot well under MOA with factory ammo, and most of them will shoot sub moa with handloads. They just are great rifles.
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Never been a big fan of Savage, honestly never gave them much of a chance. Guess its cause i've always been a Ruger or Remington fan. I have hunted the last few years with a Ruger 77 Mk II .270 and been very pleased with it. I haven't upgraded anything on the rifle as of yet. With that said I would buy another one if needed.
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