we take out crap with a double tap

I assume both hurt to be shot with...??

13 vs. 8, I like the idea of 13.

i have and like both. Shoot both equally well, not sure why but i lean towards the 45

I don't want to be on the business end of either one! I chose the .40 S&W because that is my department issue and what I carry for my backup. Either is a solid choice. I would be more concerned about finding the pistol that felt best in my hands, than whether it was chambered in 40 or 45.

+100 to the above comments.

Great poll. It's been back and forth many times and it's tied once again. I'm a .40 S&W fan myself and have a Ruger P91DC that I enjoy shooting. Like some have said here, you won't want to be on the receiving end of either one.

Neither for me . I use 45 ACP in Speer Gold Dot 200 gr h.p. going approx. 1025 fps

What world do you live in that a burglar is so determined and self-defense conflicts last so long that you would NEED more shots than a pistol, OR have time to "get back to your shotgun or rifle"?

Pull a gun and take a shot on a home invader and they're taking off. This isn't the movies where storm troopers in full tactical gear invade your home with automatic weapons...

And personally, based on my experience, a handgun is FAR superior to both shotguns and rifles in self-defense/home invasion situations, especially in urban environments.

I voted for the .40 S&W out of logic, but I actually find myself carrying a .45acp much more often. Sometimes it's better to just go with your gut.

I have a Glock 23 .40S&W, and a Glock 32 .357Sig for that matter, that I CAN use for CC, but I find that I almost never do. My brother in law actually carries my 23, since it hadn't been out of the safe in so long. Between the .40 and the .45, my Micro-Compact 1911 gets MUCH more use than the .40 Glock.

In reality, I carry a .380 MUCH more often that I even carry the .45acp.

Logically, I prefer to have either MORE ammo, or a smaller piece, or both. I'm a bit of a minimalist when it comes to CCW, where I'd much rather have a "pocket pistol" like my Kel-Tec P-3AT .380Auto than have more firepower but in a bigger package, like the "compact" Glock 23 .40S&W.

So comparing the .40S&W with the .45acp, the .40 is a smaller package with more rounds in the mag. I don't NEED the power of a .40 to take care of 2 legged varmints, let alone the power of a .45acp. With nearly TWICE the ammo on deck, getting hit TWICE with a .40S&W does a lot more damage than getting hit ONCE with a .45acp, plus it's coming out of a more compact piece.

But like I said, I tend to carry the .45acp much more often, and prefer to do my plinking with the .45acp as well. No matter what the mind believes, sometimes the heart trumps logic.

Ok, so you prefer the .45ACP. I'm second guessing myself when I added the bullet weight for both rounds in the poll.