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You said " A" slug gun. I bought two. One for me and one for my oldest boy, " Hoss" .

Both H&R Ultra Slug Hunter' s, single shot, fully rifled-bull barrels with scopes. Neither one cost more than $200.00, $300.00 with scopes.

Accurate? ............................. VERY!


Uncle Matt (in IL)

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If I needed a slug gun I would definately look into the H&R even if I wanted to be able to change barrels. I think H&R/NEF are some of the best bargains on the market.

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If you can find a Browning A bolt fully rifled barrle grab it.High Browning quality and shoots very well.Next choice would be Marlin 512 slugmaster,also a good shooter,trigger is a bit stiff but still a great choice.The savage would be my next choice.The ultimate weapon would be a Tarhunt slug gun but very costly.Good luck

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Ithaca Deerslayer if price is not a huge issue
its purty and time tested

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ITHACA DEERSLAYER, MOSSBERG BOLT ACTION OR BROWNING BOLT ACTION ARE ALL GOOD NON REPLACEABLE BARREL SHOTGUNS. THE HIGH END SHOTGUN IN THIS CLASS BEING THE TARHUNT

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Know of two people that had troubles out of thier 1187' s, so I went with the Browning Gold. Extreamely accurate. Had the HR' s but too heavy for what you get and kicks like a mule and single shot. But its cheap. I like semis when using slug guns. Where I hunt on the Eastern Shore of MD, you really don' t want that animal to get into the swamps or you might need a canoe. Seriously

Believe me you won' t be dissatisfied. I hate to admit this, but the action is so much more smoother than my 1187, I use for trap. Has a few cool things about it, like if you need another slug, just barely slide it in the bottom and it automatically puts in the chamber in a hurry without pushing any release like my 1187. Never had to use deer hunting, but do duck hunting. The gas system doesn' t rely on the rubber band like the 1187 but I heard remington fixed that problem. I carry an extra anyway with my 1187. The Browning has a one piece piston. Only drawback is the barrels are expensive. Alot more than Remington. Really depends on the budget.

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:D I personally own a Remington 870 pump gun with the rifled slug barrel & love it.....IMHO....REMINGTON RULES!!!!!!!!! Brampton Mike [8D]

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I' m suprized that no one has said anything about the 870. that is usually the " go to answer" for the " which gun should I get for....."

I would never, never get a bolt action or a single shot slug gun, never!!

why? the A-Bolt slug master is no longer made and forget about finding one for sale, if you do the price tag on it will be so high yo may as well by a new autoloder.

Anyway, the Mossberg and Marlin are $200 guns. they may to " good" shooters but not fast shooters. the actions are rough, metal cheap, just not quality.

The Deerslayer are good guns the new DSII is too heavy for all conventional use. The single shot H&R are also way to heavy. why would you want a 10lb. gun that only holds one bullet?

Ideally it would be best to have at least one gun for every season (deer gun, turkey gun, duck gun) it would be even better to have backup guns also.
You are best served by two options. 1. by a rem. 870 syn. field gun and the cantilever fully 21" rifled slug barrel to go with it. 2. by the 870 deer gun which will be the " super Slug" 23" slightly fatter barrel & it has a monte carlo stock.

I use a 870 with the 21" cantilever fulley rifled slug barrel. I have clover leaf groups at 100yds. with lightfield slugs. i like this gun cause it is fairly small light weight and quick. Scope-1.75-5x20 burris FFII.
My other deer gun is a Benelli SBE with a E.R. Shaw Custom slug barrel. It is a 24" fat, but not heavy barrel. it weighs more than my 870. it also clover leafs lightfields at 100yds. Scope - Burris Signature 1.5-6x26 electro dot.

if you budget minded go with one of the 870' s

don' t waste your money one various slugs, shoot Lightfields.

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I bought my 870 express over 20 years ago, when rifled barrels were illegal in NY for hunting deer. It came with a 20" smooth bore and a 28" VR barrel with screw in rem chokes. That was my first and only shotgun. Love it for deer and turkey, see no need to change.

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a wal-mart beretta is not a real beretta. it is lesser quality just like every other gun they sell.

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Yeah right. If you want to see cheap look inside your beloved 870. You can still see Budweiser written on some of the parts since most are made out of recycled beer cans.

Lesser price does not always equate to lesser quality. Get a grip.

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You know guys, a friend of mine and I traded guns for a tough day of duck hunting. He has that berretta walmart special and I had the 1187. Thats pretty nice gun guys. I don' t like how you have to load, but I rapid fired that bad boy all day on sea ducks. I was thinking about getting one and keeping my 1187 primer looking new. Then figured I had enough shotguns.

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frizz
i beleive i have a grip, thanks.
the wally world 870' s are not the same 870' s that you get at speciality stores either. that' s fine if you don' t beleive me, go ahead and keep being your guns their, sam walton' s family needs the money.
the fact of the matter is that wal mart gets factory seconds. thats not meaning that the gun has a major problem, it' s saying that their may be a little flaw on the stock, or metal or such.
I work at a gun shop and our wholesaler and manufactorer tell us, flat out, they are not the same guns. that, along with the fact that wally sometimes buy in huge bulk is why the prices are cheaper.
the cans i drink beer out of are aluminum not steel, sorry.
I am by no means a huge reimington fan, i like the 870 pump gun better than other makes of pumps.

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Outdoorsman, Had an 870 with rifled barrel,doesn' t compare to marlin and not even close to Browning Abolt!Proven fact bolt action guns are the most accurate action,thats why 90% of all rifles are bolt.And as far as fast shooting bolts can be worked very fast and efficiently.I got this same kind of reaction at hunting camp when I showed up using a Bolt action,but dead deer every year with one shot kills as quieted most skeptics:DAs far as cost of an Abolt Browning I found mine for $400.Marlin slugmaster512 is a good quality gun with a heavey bull barrel for the money

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dvdegeorge
does your bolts at least cloverleaf at 100yds? if so it looks like my pump and auto compare with your bolt.
by the way, i was not knocking the browning abolt slug, eventhough I don' t care for brownings. as i said they are expensive if you find someone selling one.
I am aware that bolts can be worked fast, but not as fast as a pump or auto. it all depends on what kind if hunting area you will be in. If I' m in the timber i would want a pump or auto. If you field hunt then maybe a bolt will suit you, not me. if for some reason you miss you first shot you will have a higher chance if getting pegged by the noise of the bolt than you would with a pump or auto. the recoil in the pump helps cycle the action faster.

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If you say so. But I know for a fact that a Savage is a Savage no matter where you buy it and it will shoot as good or better than most guns available at any cost. Same with a Mossberg and a Marlin so your lower price equals lower quality theory is not proving true.

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I have the Remington 1100 w/cantilevered scope mount & the 870 with rifled choke tube and they each have their own special use and get the job done.

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outdoorsman, I don' t think you know what your talking about[X(]

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Now, now, fellas.

I went with the Mossberg 695 Bolt -- here' s why.

1) I decided I love deer hunting enough that I could rationalize a gun dedicated to deer. 2) Changing barrels on most pumps means realigning the sights (scopes or otherwise) but the scope on the Mossberg fixes to the barrel. 3) A rifled barrel for my Ithaca would cost more than the entire Mossberg. The Mossberg was $185 at Dicks. 4) In all the reviews it was AS accurate as the Marlin and Savage. Mine likes Winchester Gold (Partitian?) Supreme and groups nicely. 5) If I did have piles of money laying around and I got a fancy-schmancy slug gun with a pretty stock I' d be afraid to crawl in the muck and snow, afraid to use the gun to push back heavy brush, afraid to actually use it for hunting. 6) The Mossberg is one butt-ugly gun (though the ported barrel looks pretty cool). I always worry about guys who hunt with pretty guns. A gun, especially a hunting gun, is a tool. I don' t care if my saws-all is pretty. 7) Heavy barrel so it shoots the new high velocity slugs, but it' s not the 20lb. boat anchor H&R/NEF are selling. 8) If I recall correctly, the Marlin did not eat certain shells w/o jamming. 3 inch, maybe. 9) My wife said I could.

Yes, I know the Mossberg is not a Purdy, but I' m guessing it will last the rest of my life. It gets shot 2 or 3 times a year, not counting sighting it in. Oh, I suppose if money were no issue I might buy something else, but money is an issue in my house. Shoot, if money were no issue I wouldn' t hunt around here with a shotgun, I' d have a 2000 acre spread in the ADK mts, I' d manage a huge herd and I' d hunt with my Savage 99 in .308 (got it used for free). :-)

rhetoric

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JKT
I do know what I' m talking about, if you don' t want to beleive me that' s fine. I don' t really know what' s so hard to beleive, it all makes sense.

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Sure it makes sense. It makes sense that you are not able to compete with the prices Wal Mart can offer because of the sheer volume discount they get so you get jealous and spread manure about second rate firearms. Its all baloney.

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" attention wal mart shoppers, we have a sale on cheap, second rate guns in our sporting goods store and frizzellr is here to help you with any questions you may have."
man I don' t need to compete with wally, they don' t sell any high dollar guns anyway. try going there and asking for a benelli, sako, browning, etc. see what kind of zit infested look you get on the kid' s faces working there. that is if you can find someone that can help you.

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I bought the mossberg 695 and I am very happy with it. Mine shoots the lightfield slugs the best.

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LoL, I have shot jsut about every slug gun know to man in the past 6 years! i shoot the h&r 980 with a factory done trigger job! it out shoots my tarhunt! good friend has an a-bolt nice gun! his kid has a savage 210 not bad either, had a marlin lousy trigger and lousy scope mounting system! 870 not bad had the barrel pinned and a hastings trigger group put in! made it beeter but still not good enough! 1187/1100 nice but still an auto! mossberg 835 3.5 awesome flat and a hard hitter! very accurate! i just bought a used H&R and had it reamed out to 3.5 chamber! the only other gun i would use would be the ithaca deerslayer III it is a awesome shooter we have grops at 200yds most cant shoot at 100! the H&R is just as good at that distance! almost! it depends on the ammo how you store your slugs and if they are the same lot number! and how you zero it in ! and you only need one shot! not 5!

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if i remember right my local wally world sells a browing a bolt in 300wsm.several wetherby o\u and other over priced firearms.

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So deputy, WHat would you recommend for someone buying a slug gun? I am not interested in changing barrels at all I want a slug gun only.

My choices are either the H&R ultra slug hunter and Mossberg 695.

I usually only hunt out of stands not driving or occasionally still hunt. BUt 98% of the time is stand hunting. So the weight of the H&R is no bother to me for how infrequently I would still hunt.

Do you have another suggestion for me?

Thanks

Brian

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i would go with the H&R using lightfield slugs! now before everbody jumps in with the try all types of slugs before ! i know this but the H&R was devloped around the lightfield slugs! i have had great results with both 2.75 and 3 inch lightfields in the 4 we have tried depending on where your hunting takes you i use a 2.5 x10 4200 elite scope from bausch&lomb in rtn to zero mounts from al talbot and also use a aimpoint for the heavy stuff! in another set of rings! if yo udont like the trigger and they can get it to you in time for the season they will re do the trigger for you to a nice 4 pounds very clean break on it ! good luck and go get them! alo i took a sidesaddle carrier and screwed to my stock to hold extra rounds

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Big Jake,

Save yourself headaches and money and get the Benelli Nova. They are smooth, very well built, durable and in camo run about $400. I have a Remington, Browning, Mossberg and a Benelli. The Benelli has far exceeded the others.

Mathewsconquest

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My uncle has a Browning A-bolt slug gun for Iowa, shoots like a charm.

When we drew tags in Iowa last year, we didn' t really have a slug gun. We went down, and bought a pair of REMINGTON 870 EXPRESS' S. Synthetic stocks, 26" VR' s and 20" fully rifled, cantilevered slug barrels. For glass, we have Leupold 1-4X shotgun scopes, leupold rings and such. Putting on the nice scopes makes a dif. I ended up shooting a 140 class 9 point with that gun, it performed fine in the cold weather. Stood up to everything i threw at it, cold weather, mud, rain, and yes, even extreme heat(i take it with when i go scouting in the summer, very humid). I got my best groups from the Remington Coppersolid sabots, those things really put the smack down on deer.

I would recommend a Remington 870. Wal mart guns are cheaply made. Big Green(remington) is pretty much all we buy. The remington 11-87 is good too, my uncle used it, worked like a charm.

BTW, we took 5 dandy bucks in iowa, ranging from 130-140 class, and 3 does during First season...3 of 5 bucks fell to Remington 870' s with fully rifled slug barrels in 12 gauge, two from my uncle' s browning, 2 does from an 870, and one too an 1100.

REMINGTON ALL THE WAY!!!

slayer

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i have the 695 also, shoots great, looks like crap. i consider it my sitting gun, too heavy and awkward to carry with a scope mounted on it. also found that the safety was a pain in the rear. i quit using it a few years ago and went with a 20 guage browning pump, seems to kill them just as dead as anything else i shoot. by the way, they had a recall on the 695 a few years back, something to do with safety i think.

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Deputy, Thanks for the info as that is the way I was leaning anyway. I guess I will just have to get me a H&R 12 guage. I guess I just needed some reassurance.

Thanks again.

Brian

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Brian they are all capable of killing and shooting well! but in the test we have done for cost and simple good solid working gun the H&R was the hands down winner! it really shines past the normal ranges like 150 yds ! bes tthing you can do is get it zero it at 50yds about 2.5-2.75 inches high then re shoot it at 100yds! you should be on the money no trouble sligs must be zeroed at supersonic speeds! unlike rifles which are zeroed at 100yd shotguns must be zeroed at 50 ! and oh boy talk about wind! a 5-10 mile an hour wind can blow you off a target by 9 inches at that speed! it takes a lot of ammo down range to judge that ! but hey thats why we practice! let me know if i can be of help !