Trigger Trouble
 

Bought a Timney after-market trigger for my Ruger 77 Mark II to lighten pull. My crude estimate (hand-held fish scale) puts it at around 7 lbs. The gunsmith is having trouble. It' s supposed to be " drop in" but it doesn' t. Got the trigger through Cabela' s; came in original package. I' ll probably send it to Timney but I was wondering if any of you had experience or problems with putting one in the Ruger. Not what I expected from two top-end products. Thanks.

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I think you will find that part of the safety has to be ground down. I am not sure what vintage Ruger you have but on some you have to do some work on the safety if this is the case it is explained in the instructions.

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I put one in a MKII a few months ago and knew from the start that the safety had to be ground down and none of the suppliers said it was a dropin. You have to be very patient and want to avoid grinding it down too far since you cease to have a safety ...the replacement safety is 10 bucks but only Ruger and gunsmiths are allowed to replace it. The part is not available anywhere. If your gunsmith is having problems installing this look elsewhere for a gunsmith. Unfortunately in todays sue happy society manufacturers have to protect themselves . Once it is installed correctly the trigger is very nice

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BTW after installing this Timney Trigger...and after reading how the factory trigger is non adjustable(lot of bunk) I arranged to have 2 other 77' s I have to be adjusted by stoning them and replacing the springs by a Gunsmith I know. Here is another problem using the Timney. If for whatever reason you send your Ruger back to the factory for service and that Timney is on it I can guarantee they will remove the Trigger and safety and replace both and charge you to boot for fitting a safety . I now have a spare trigger and in the event either rifle gets sent back to the factory I' ll just slip the old unmodified trigger into the gun...when it comes back I' ll put the other modified trigger back in.

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I have adjusted the trigger on mine with no problems using this site. http://www.centerfirecentral.com/77trigger.html Only use this info if you are sure you can do the work properly. I like to work the trigger not just replace it. Good luck

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WoW...I never heard a bad report on a timney trigger:| , but everyone makes a lemon once in a while;)

Some good news is that ruger is starting to make there guns so that the trigger can be adjusted...They wont be adjustable a whole lot, but better than it is. I' m not sure on what models they are doing it on, but they told the shop they were doing it.

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i had to replace my sako #4 trigger on my f.n. mauser last year. in the long run i had to send it down to 1shot_1kill to put it in for me. the saftey had to get ground down a bit it would not let me move it freely from safe to fire. is this rather usual with most replacement triggers?

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I know that Timney says a drop in fit but thats not always the case. I just installed one on my Remington 700 yesterday and everything went fine and it did drop right in place and works great and breaks at 3lbs. The only modification i had to make was to trim the trigger guard on both sides to keep the trigger from touching because it' s slightly wider than the remington stock trigger. I have a friend who installed the same trigger on his Remington model 7 and did have some problems and had to do more work than he expected but once he finished he loves the trigger. I think Timney is a good trigger once you get it installed but like i said it' s not always a drop in fit. Good luck.

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Thanks, guys. Very helpful. Appreciate it.

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I would venture to say that about 50% of the after market triggers, that I have installed, were true " drop in' s" . I have found that there is something that either has to be done or modified in order for an after market trigger to work properly or ther is something that can be done to ensure the reliability and function of an after market trigger. So, it is not unusual for your Ruger 77MkII to require some " fitting" in order for the Timney trigger to fit and function properly.

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Yea, I think they tell you that you will have to adjust for the safety. Not really a huge deal. Unless your working with Power Custom Stuff that is titanium. Man, I had to use a diamond stone to grind it down only 2 mil.

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A very good point was made here. I do not care if I only change the springs in a trigger I give the customer back what ever parts I have changed. I tell them that if they ever want to send the gun into the factory stop by and I will replace the after market parts with the origional parts. When you send the rifle in it will come back " Stock" and you may not get back your after market parts so be warned. After all you do not want to loose a $70 dollar trigger!!!

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I fell in this trap with remington. I had the trigger adjusted to nice 2lbs. The trigger wasn' t the problem. They not only didn' t send the original trigger to me but tryed to charge me 35 dollars for a new sledge hammer pull trigger. I complained until they sent me there trigger no cost. Still didn' t get my own trigger back. I was livid to say the least. And the gun still had the original problems.

So Judson is right on the mark. If sending the gun back to factory, send either with no trigger or original.

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I like the Timney triggers but you guys might want to check out the Kiplinger Single set trigger. They are available for Rem 700, Ruger 77 and the #1, Mod 70, and the good old 98 Mauser. The unset pull is around 3 pounds and after you push the trigger forward to set it its set pull is 6oz. On some rifles if you want to un set the trigger you just put the safety on or lift the bolt and it unsets. On all rifles you can unset the trigger manually or just open the action. Real nice set up check them out.

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Hey bigcountry i sent a model seven back to remington and sent a letter with it. i told them i had adjusted the trigger and please to not readjust it. they didnt .
I had been told they would readjust it so i just sent a letter and they did as i asked.
the only thing that was wrong was that the sn#' s between the bolt and reciever didnt match![:o]
and yep i shot the gun several times before i noticed!
they fixed the problem by making them match![:o]

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Bought a Ruger M77 Mark II ultralight, the trigger was ridiculous.
8 pound pull. Safe I guess, but threw lead everywhere.
Sent to my gunsmith, has come back smooth as silk at 3 pounds, but I'm $100.00 out of pocket.

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Also had all therough edges honed off the action. Out of the box you'd cut your hands on those edges.