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Sheridan 06-30-2010 03:25 PM

Short action VS Long action
 
If you believe in the axiom; one shot, one kill.

Please explain the “benefits” of a short action versus a long action on a bolt action rifle ?

In terms of speed, what do you think the difference is in ranking the next round ?

In terms of weight, what do you think the difference is in a production rifle?

DeerandbearhoG 06-30-2010 03:33 PM

SA aprox 8oz less, LA about 150fps. Ill take lighter and shorter anyday.

jeepkid 06-30-2010 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by DeerandbearhoG (Post 3641307)
...LA about 150fps...

How do you figure that? A .270 WSM will outrun a .270 Win anyday...

salukipv1 06-30-2010 03:56 PM

with the short mags, you can now have both, short/lightweight and velocity.

270WSM
300WSM

you said ranking the next round? ie racking a new round or reloading a 2nd round?

I think you can chamber a new round very fast with either if you wanted to, course a short action with a short bolt rise should be faster than a LA 90 degree. But really does .3 secs vs. .5 secs matter? etc...?

A lot of these guys on hunting shows take 2 minutes to chamber a 2nd round...haha.

salukipv1 06-30-2010 03:58 PM

I think they're talking .308 vs. .30-06
7mm-08 vs. 280


Originally Posted by jeepkid (Post 3641312)
How do you figure that? A .270 WSM will outrun a .270 Win anyday...


podunk kennels 06-30-2010 04:09 PM

Personally I prefer a long action for several reasons. The extra powder capacity is nice to have as a reloader. Second when I purchase a rifle im thinking ahead of its current use, such as when this barrel is shot out what am I going to chamber it for. Long actions leave your options open for future projects as you can chamber them for a shorter cartridge but you cant stretch a short action if you suddenly fell the need to build a rifle based on a long action cartridge. Bolt throw time is negligible and as hunters we arent ever gonna really notice 6 to 8 ounces of weight.

podunk kennels 06-30-2010 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by jeepkid (Post 3641312)
How do you figure that? A .270 WSM will outrun a .270 Win anyday...

The "short mag" me too chamberings are the exception not the rule.

heinz57 06-30-2010 04:19 PM

Sheridan wrote "In terms of speed, what do you think the difference is in ranking the next round "???????? with a 300 wsm don't worry about ranking the next round ..the[moose , bear, caribou ,and deer] is already DEAD ...

heinz57 06-30-2010 04:20 PM

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podunk kennels 06-30-2010 04:23 PM

The short magnum cartridges dont kill game any faster or any deader than a 30/30. Dead is dead. If not for the "magnum" marketing craze I doubt they would be as popular as they are. The only benefit they offer over a traditional magnum is case length and Im not terribly sure thats a benefit.


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