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Old 02-08-2010 | 07:25 AM
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NO..their like women, some you can live with and others, well you fill it in from there.. KEEP in mind that the new owners, from the military mind is only interested in keeping the line flowing and keeping them going bang under any condition... most 700 actions of old are somewhat the same.. the tolerances are also about the same and for the most part they were one of the better actions to work with, especially when a great gunsmith would true one for you.. some only required minimal .001ths here or there to make them darn near the quality of custom actions BUT todays are a different story, boy some of them coming through are a little on the ruff side to say the least and it's going to take some doing to straighten out them.. QUALITY control has taken a backseat to semi-auto big military cash control, they'd love to rearm the military with a new REMINGTON built semi-rifle..lots of slop, guarenteed to work in mud, snow, sand and whatever else you need it to..SO I'd say we're lucky they are as good as they are..triggers are great, lock time is ok but they are not BAT"s, STOLLE's, BORDEN's or any of the rest..EVERYTHING today is made for profit, what's left for us to reap or sow.. I'd say that if they ever talk the military into adopting their new line of slightly larger cartridges than the .223, the 700 action may become extinct!!! That's what happens when corporate America takes over.. let's hope that the military doesn't wipe them out and make them a memory..Still love the dozen I own, the old ones were a thing of beauty..
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Old 02-08-2010 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank in the Laurel
NO..their like women, some you can live with and others, well you fill it in from there.. KEEP in mind that the new owners, from the military mind is only interested in keeping the line flowing and keeping them going bang under any condition... most 700 actions of old are somewhat the same.. the tolerances are also about the same and for the most part they were one of the better actions to work with, especially when a great gunsmith would true one for you.. some only required minimal .001ths here or there to make them darn near the quality of custom actions BUT todays are a different story, boy some of them coming through are a little on the ruff side to say the least and it's going to take some doing to straighten out them.. QUALITY control has taken a backseat to semi-auto big military cash control, they'd love to rearm the military with a new REMINGTON built semi-rifle..lots of slop, guarenteed to work in mud, snow, sand and whatever else you need it to..SO I'd say we're lucky they are as good as they are..triggers are great, lock time is ok but they are not BAT"s, STOLLE's, BORDEN's or any of the rest..EVERYTHING today is made for profit, what's left for us to reap or sow.. I'd say that if they ever talk the military into adopting their new line of slightly larger cartridges than the .223, the 700 action may become extinct!!! That's what happens when corporate America takes over.. let's hope that the military doesn't wipe them out and make them a memory..Still love the dozen I own, the old ones were a thing of beauty..

I don't know about the cry of corporate America. They had to make money when they were building guns 40 years ago, they got to make money now.

The problem is cheapa** America want's to spend $300 for a gun that cost $800 to build.
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Old 02-08-2010 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by VAhuntr
Never seen a hollow CDL stock. My CDL stock was walnut. Are you talking about the black synthetic SPS stock?
Just bad typing. I meant bdl.
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Old 02-08-2010 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Cut'em Jack
I don't know about the cry of corporate America. They had to make money when they were building guns 40 years ago, they got to make money now.

The problem is cheapa** America want's to spend $300 for a gun that cost $800 to build.
Exactly right!! Then proceed to bitch about production for things getting moved overseas.
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Old 02-09-2010 | 08:38 AM
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Frank in the Laurel hit it right on about the rough actions. Having handled the newer 700's the actions are not as smooth and clean as they used to be, in the SPS's. They still shoot, and pretty well at that, but the older ADL's were a much nicer gun. The CDL's and Sendero's are still very nice guns. They use better barrels for these and the actions are much smoother than the SPS's. That's where the price difference is. The CDL stainless will be a good rifle.

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