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tpvegas 02-03-2010 05:47 PM

which one is a better gun
 
which one of thes guns is a beter one
the Winchester Model 70 Custom 270 WSM or the
Remington 700 SPS 270 Win

Big Z 02-03-2010 05:53 PM

Either will shoot, I'd bet.. though .277s aren't my favorite, to say the least :D

7remmag 02-03-2010 05:54 PM

win 270 wsm for sure

Sheridan 02-03-2010 09:07 PM

.270 win then have the barrel hand lapped and a trigger job - now you got a 1" MOA gun

ajstrider 02-04-2010 01:34 AM

Well if these are both new guns, I would go with the Winchester. I recently purchased two new rifles and I looked through all the guns. Every new Remington rifle I handled just didn't feel like the same quality that Remington was putting out just 5 years ago. The action and trigger felt sloppy to me, and the finish wasn't very smooth. The same company that makes Browning rifles also makes Winchester rifles, and I dearly love my Brownings. I would go with the Winchester 70.

bugsNbows 02-04-2010 03:24 AM

+1 on the Remmy's slide downhill. I'll take the Win 70 thank you.

Swampdog 02-04-2010 05:05 AM

Years ago I probaly would have said The remington.I personally have mostly Model 70 action (pre-64 or the newer "classic" model) which is basicly the same as a Pre-64 but I think some better upgrades.As far as caliber again I personally don't like any short,super short ,short ultra,or any of these new short magnums.I just don't see much future in them unless you reload.Also I feel you actually lose with these unless you reload.If you are set on a .270 I would reccomend the Model 70 in the old favorite .270 win.You can get .270 win. ammo anywhere .It is aboutas available as 30-06 ammo plus if you roll your own you can use 30-06 brass in a pinch because it is one of several calibers that are based on the 30-06 cartridge.JMHO

Big Uncle 02-04-2010 05:39 AM

The new M70 has not proven to be anything special yet, and I don't think anyone needs controlled round feed in a .270. Despite what some folks on this site say, there is absolutely nothing wrong with new Remingtons. It is tiring to read negative comments from the same guys all of the time.
Of the two cartridges mentioned, I would choose the .270 Win over the WSM.

DeerandbearhoG 02-04-2010 09:12 AM

+1 ,Remington quality "going downhill" is an absolute myth,:rolleye0011: just people repeating what others are saying on the net. The remington 700s made today are just as good as the ones made 5-10 years ago. I bought 2 700s in the past 2 years and they are fine , accurate guns. The action, fit, and finish are all tight & nice. I also handled a couple 870s, the other day at gander, and saw nothing wrong w/ them at all. Sure there are a few lemons out there, but what comany doesnt put out turds here and there? IMO the 700 is a far more accurate rifle than a model 70 and w/ a better , adjustable trigger. I also dont care for CRF bolts and 3 postion safeties.

vabyrd 02-04-2010 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by DeerandbearhoG (Post 3569701)
+1 ,Remington quality "going downhill" is an absolute myth,:rolleye0011: just people repeating what others are saying on the net. The remington 700s made today are just as good as the ones made 5-10 years ago. I bought 2 700s in the past 2 years and they are fine , accurate guns. The action, fit, and finish are all tight & nice. I also handled a couple 870s, the other day at gander, and saw nothing wrong w/ them at all. Sure there are a few lemons out there, but what comany doesnt put out turds here and there? IMO the 700 is a far more accurate rifle than a model 70 and w/ a better , adjustable trigger. I also dont care for CRF bolts and 3 postion safeties.

Look a little closer next time. bead blasted with beach sand. Nice synthetic stock. Love the seam and the rubber inlays...pos. Do they still have the "J" safety. Now that was a work of art. They may be tight, but not "fit". Recoil pads feel like flubber. Yours for only 325 at Wal-Mart.

FN is cranking out the new 70's. Give them a minute or two and you'll see why Uncle Sam lets them build play toys....

GTOHunter 02-04-2010 06:12 PM

Check the price of regular .270 shells to the price of $35.00 to $40.00 for the WSM shells and you'll probably be better off with the .270 Rifle if your going to be doing a lot of shooting/hunting.

DeerandbearhoG 02-04-2010 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by vabyrd (Post 3569951)
Look a little closer next time. bead blasted with beach sand. Nice synthetic stock. Love the seam and the rubber inlays...pos. Do they still have the "J" safety. Now that was a work of art. They may be tight, but not "fit". Recoil pads feel like flubber. Yours for only 325 at Wal-Mart.

FN is cranking out the new 70's. Give them a minute or two and you'll see why Uncle Sam lets them build play toys....

what a hack review:nonono2: . The matte stainless finish is excellent w/ the least amount of glare of any other, finish Ive seen. Who cares what it was blasted w/ ? It didnt have any sand in it when I bought mine:rolleye0011: Injection molded is injection molded, and even sako uses rubber inserts, so what ? the recoil pads are made by limbsaver. as for your last statement I cant argue w/ it cause I have no idea what that even means.

IndyHunter83 02-05-2010 09:07 AM

To me it really depends on what your gonna use it for. If its a deer rifle then either one would do the job for pretty much any deer. I'm going to be the first to admit that I don't know all that much about MOA facts. My 270 is deer rifle and I can hit a 6" diameter clay target at 300 yards and have killed several deer with it. Thats as accurate as I need. I know from the ballistics charts they are both comparible. The question is which do you like more? Shoulder em both and go for fit. Winchester has the reputation of being higher quality but I was fooling around with a 308 in a remington 700 and it felt good. I would say depending on what you'll be using it for, neither one is really a bad choice.

SJAdventures 02-07-2010 01:20 PM

I bought a 700 bdl in 300 saum 2 years a go and it was a really nice shooting rifle that shot sub moa with a couple of different bullets and powders.

mike300wm 02-07-2010 05:08 PM

the 270wsm has a lot more juice on it than a standard 270,in fact the #s in some case look better than a 300wm,either 1 is a good rifle & pick a caliber you are comfortable shooting,id rather somebody shoot a deer with a lower caliber & not flinch or close their eyes with than 1 somebody has recoil issues with,mike300wm


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