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bradc 01-26-2010 02:36 PM

kimber rifles
 
picked one up in 308 and fell in love. not sure hat the model was but it was bolt action with a synthetic stock, extremely light and pretty pricey. anyone have any experiences with this rifle?

Cut'em Jack 01-26-2010 04:00 PM

Waiting to hear yours......I'm lookin gfor one in 7-08 or 260

sns21 01-26-2010 06:03 PM

Assuming you're talking about the Kimber 84, these are very nice rifles. They were built around the 308 so they are lighter than many of the other short action rifles out there. They handle very well, have match grade barrels, good triggers, and controlled round feed. One of the better productoin rifles out there. The two that I've handled have both been very accurate and a joy to handle. They are more expensive than your typical Remington or Savage, but you get a lot more gun.

mossyoak1 01-26-2010 08:00 PM

They are a bit pricey,but extremely accurate and dependable!

Sheridan 01-26-2010 09:03 PM

You will only hear good thing about Kimber FIREARMS period, but bring your check book because they don't come cheap.

bradc 01-27-2010 08:18 AM

thanks guys dont think ill be investing but they sure are sweet i hope i get to shoot one soon

bugsNbows 01-27-2010 09:08 AM

Kimber's are nice but have not been bullet-proof either. There have been some QC and accuracy related issues reported. I've had an 84M wood/ blued and a Montana, both of which were fine. I still may get an 8400 though. Pricey but well built.

jeepkid 01-27-2010 09:52 AM

I assume your talking about the Montana, maybe? I've handled a few and they seem like a nice walking/mountain rifle, but too expensive for what they are imo...

Big Uncle 01-27-2010 10:24 AM

Kimber makes nice 1911 pistols that are priced right and shoot great, but their rifles don't enjoy the same reputation. Kimber rifles are great looking, and the Controlled Round Feed feature is sometimes a good thing (but not always), but they don't all shoot tiny groups.

Sheridan 01-27-2010 08:52 PM

Maybe looked down on by those Vo Vapen owners.

DeerandbearhoG 01-28-2010 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by Sheridan (Post 3563919)
You will only hear good thing about Kimber FIREARMS period

goolge kimber quality control.

1200$ rifles shouldnt have page after page of reports of poor QC.

Sheridan 01-28-2010 09:13 PM

Here's what I found;

"In the 1980s, Kimber made rim- and centerfire rifles that were handsome but often lacking in accuracy and plagued by quality-control problems. That incarnation of Kimber went under, and the new company of that name has none of the problems that doomed its ancestor."


I guess I am a newbie and only know them from recent reviews.

DeerandbearhoG 01-29-2010 04:11 AM

Heres just a few examples of what I found in the 1st 2pages ,by simply gooleing the words kimber rifles,quality control. report after report of feeding , firing, and accuracy problems, not to mention horrible customer service. I cant believe anyone who bothers to do 3 minutes worth of research on these guns, would drop 1200$ or even 200$ for one of these turds. Cop buddy of mine told me the worse pistols he ever owned were kimbers and kahr.

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=301406

http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/...ad.php?t=52060

http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/...ad.php?t=30672

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/archi...hp/t-7760.html

http://forums.cabelas.com/showthread.php?t=1539

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubb...&Number=874581

statjunk 01-29-2010 04:19 AM

I've heard a lot of bad stuff about their 1911 pistols. The rifles have been hit or miss. Pun intended.

Tom

Swampdog 01-29-2010 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by statjunk (Post 3565570)
I've heard a lot of bad stuff about their 1911 pistols. The rifles have been hit or miss. Pun intended.

Tom

:s4: I must have gotten lucky .I bought a Custom II years ago and have never had so much as a hiccup.Even before the fist 500 rounds.Got a colt that my gunsmith(R.I.P.) buddy built wont touch the Kimber on it's best day.Go figure.:confused0024:

Sheridan 01-29-2010 11:47 AM

Go figure is right.....................


Normally, I do my homework first.


Thanks for your research !

vabyrd 01-29-2010 12:57 PM

Wasn't it mostly feeding problems with the shortmag stuff?

bradc 01-29-2010 03:14 PM

wow always viewed kimber as one of the best quality gunmakers. thanks for the heads up

Sheridan 01-29-2010 07:29 PM

D & B,

Go ahead and tell me about Cooper rifles now !?!?

http://www.cooperfirearms.com/our_rifles_new.php


No good either :-(

DeerandbearhoG 01-29-2010 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by Sheridan (Post 3566171)
D & B,

Go ahead and tell me about Cooper rifles now !?!?

http://www.cooperfirearms.com/our_rifles_new.php


No good either :-(

Im not a rifle expert, nor am I privi, to any inside info, I just know what I read, which is the same stuff anyone who googles "brandX" and quality control, problems , accuracy, etc.can find. I do remember last year, there was a big to do about coopers founder, supporting obama for pres. Other than that, I dont know much. I did google cooper rifles and quality control, and not much negative stuff came up. Personally if I was going to drop over 1000$ on a new rifle, I would build one off a 700 action, pacnor barrel, timney trigger, and mcmillian stock.

canecreek 02-01-2010 06:24 PM

Kimber M84 308 Miss Fires (Light primer strikes)
 
I purchased a Kimber 84 in the 308 caliber in June 2007. I've been very pleased with the light weight and feel of the rifle. However the accuracy has not been desireable with 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 MOA's using factory ammunition. Another problem I've had (and the most annoying) is I've had 6 rounds out of about 400 shots with the rifle to miss fire. Three rounds using Winchester balistic silvertip and 3 rounds with Hornady Superformance SST's. I returned the Winchester silvertip's to Winchester and they tested them and replied that I had a weak fireing strike. I thought a bad primer was a fault so switched to the Hornady SST's and now I've had 3 miss fires with them also. I took the rifle to my local gunsmith and he couldn't find anything wrong with the fireing pin, but did correct problems with the stock bedding, polished the bolt, and remounted the Leupold 3-9 x 40 scope. It seems some of the bedding material was pushing the barrel to the left and the bolt has some unecessary wear. My MOA's at 100 yards are now < 1 inch. Has anyone experienced any problems with miss fires?

Thanks

canecreek 02-02-2010 01:55 AM

Have you heard or experienced any problem with the Kimber 84 miss firing or light primer strikes?

statjunk 02-02-2010 04:08 AM


Originally Posted by canecreek (Post 3567972)
I purchased a Kimber 84 in the 308 caliber in June 2007. I've been very pleased with the light weight and feel of the rifle. However the accuracy has not been desireable with 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 MOA's using factory ammunition. Another problem I've had (and the most annoying) is I've had 6 rounds out of about 400 shots with the rifle to miss fire. Three rounds using Winchester balistic silvertip and 3 rounds with Hornady Superformance SST's. I returned the Winchester silvertip's to Winchester and they tested them and replied that I had a weak fireing strike. I thought a bad primer was a fault so switched to the Hornady SST's and now I've had 3 miss fires with them also. I took the rifle to my local gunsmith and he couldn't find anything wrong with the fireing pin, but did correct problems with the stock bedding, polished the bolt, and remounted the Leupold 3-9 x 40 scope. It seems some of the bedding material was pushing the barrel to the left and the bolt has some unecessary wear. My MOA's at 100 yards are now < 1 inch. Has anyone experienced any problems with miss fires?

Thanks

Good post. However, watch it with the primer dinged ammo. It could in theory go off at anytime. That many miss fires should have told you with 99.9% certainty that it was your rifle and not the ammo. Not worth the risk of handling that ammo.

Tom

DougE 02-02-2010 07:26 AM

You looked at a Montanna.I have two,one in .308 and one in 300 wsm.Mine are both accurate and function fine.I've gone through loads of rifles over the years but can't see myself parting with either one of these.The 300 wsm is probably the nicest and best rifle I've ever owned.It shoots less than a 1/2 inch with 180 gr accubonds in front of 65 gr of H4350.Recoil is very manageable despite the light weight of the rifles and it just feels good in my hands.The triggers are nice and easily adjustable.They aren't cheap but I look at them as a life time investment.

Doe Dumper 02-02-2010 03:54 PM

Cane Creek did you have the headspace on that ride checked? That is a common cause for that also.

I have heard and read the same as dbh... quality control is very spotty on them. Feeding on the short mags not so hot and customer service just bad. It seems if you get a good one you have got something and if you get a bad one you better dump it.

canecreek 02-03-2010 03:47 AM

Thanks Statjunk....old canecreek did not think about the ammo being live. I'm new to the Hunting Net.com Forum and having trouble navagating. But do appreciate the input. My next concern is calling Kimber and trying to get them to understand my problem and NC slang.

thanks again,

bob

canecreek 02-03-2010 03:50 AM

Thanks for the reply Doug E....have not looked at any other Kimber products...and most likely will not due to the problems I'm currently having. Although I've heard lots of good things about the Montanna.

canecreek 02-03-2010 03:56 AM

Doe Dumper...I was also thinking the headspace needed looking at, but can't see how to fix the problem. I was also thinking the firing pin spring was week or the firing pin too short? I'll give Kimber customer service time to wake up and drink their coffee this morning and give them a call.

thanks again,

bob

DougE 02-03-2010 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by canecreek (Post 3568729)
Thanks for the reply Doug E....have not looked at any other Kimber products...and most likely will not due to the problems I'm currently having. Although I've heard lots of good things about the Montanna.

I have no doubt that there's lemons out there.I was skeptical to buy one because of the reports I read but I traded a browning stainless stalker for a montanna in .308 anyway.I was so pleased with that rifle that I traded my 300 wsm in for another Montanna in 300 wsm.I fully admit that for once,I may have gotten lucky.

DougE 02-03-2010 05:45 AM

Keep us posted on how their customer service treats you.

canecreek 02-04-2010 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by DougE (Post 3568785)
Keep us posted on how their customer service treats you.

Just like every one states above, Kimber Customers Service has lost of room for improvement. They need to get some training from the Leupold people. I called them yesterday and talked to some guy by the name of James. At times, I thought we had lost connection because he would not say anything for 20 or 30 seconds. Very non-committal in anything he would say. All I could get out of him was to send the rifle back to them with a letter stating the problem and they would check out head space and anything else that could cause light primer strikes. Kimber needs to send this guy back to "Charm School". I'm going on a three day hog hunt next week and will return the rifle when I get back later next week. That is unless any of you guys have any better ideas? I'm not to experienced with checking head space and don't know of many gunsmith's in my area that I would feel could fix the problem.

Bob

canecreek 02-06-2010 05:58 AM

OUCH - AS I Please.....looks like you need some Charm School training like the Kimber Customer Service folks....


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