RE: Savage 10 FP
 

herman, I' ve been out of state for a week and didn' t get in on this when you asked this question. I have had a 10FP in both .223 and .308 which I currently still own in the .308. I greatly hope you do get a 10FP in any caliber that it comes in, it is a great shooting gun and I have been able to shoot less than MOA at 100 and 200 yards with both using factory trigger adjusted easily down to a crisp 3.25 lbs. Mine is not of the newer variety with the Accu-Trigger, which I have tried out at the local gun shop (REEELY GREAT) but the factory trigger isn' t all that bad. If you already got one hope you like it as much as I do.

RE: Savage 10 FP
 

Picked up the savage 10fp saturday,triger feels really good,was set on 1.9 lbs from factory,put a nikon 4x14x40 scope on and cleaned the barrel now soon as I get a chance going to the range to try it out.I tried to find out what twist it was but couldn' t find anything about the twist on the savage site or the litature that came with it,so I tried to find out myself but I didn' t have a 22 jag so I just put a patch on the end of the cleaning rod it wasn' t as tight as I wanted but I came up with 1:9 twist if anyone knows for sure what it is susposed to be how about passing it back to me.
I picked up 2 boxes of wal mart specials with 55 gr bullets,since I don' t want to start reloading them just now( allready have to many cal. to reload for now.)any one got a suggestion as to what grain bullet I should try in it with what ever twist rate it is?

RE: Savage 10 FP
 

Got to try out the new savage this morning,it was a little breezy but I think I should have gotten better groups,zeroed it in at 50 yds,shot 6 bullets from three manufactures,WIN,REM,andsilver bear,all 55gr 2 bullets each at 50 yds all were in the same hole,but after moving to 100 yds,I didn' t do as good as I thought the rifle would do.Shot the best group with the WIN (1.43) not as good with the rem and silver bear.
The triger was very good set it on 11/2 lb and really liked it.didn' t feel any creep at all.
Tried to find some different gr size bullets but everything I saw was 55 gr.Going to give it a good cleaning and try it again when I get time.

RE: Savage 10 FP
 

Hey herman, congrats on the purchase. You do have a 1 in 9 twist. Also you may have to shoot 100 rounds or so to get the barrel broke in to where it will shoot its best. In my experience the .223 is pretty finiky about what bullet or load it will shoot best with so you will have to experiment with lots of different stuff till you find what it likes best. Mine liked the Win. 45gr. hollowpoints in the econo.pack. Also my best accuracy was obtained with Hornady TAP ammo in 55gr. red plastic tipped bullets. Good shootin to ya, let us know how it goes.

RE: Savage 10 FP
 

Well, so much for " the most accurate out of the box rifle" . Don' t mean insult to injury, but I fell down this savage road myself and was disappointed.

RE: Savage 10 FP
 

I got to shoot the 10fp again this evening,found some of those 45 gr in the econo pack at wal-mark,what I found out today was that the more the barrel heats up the tighter the groups get,first rifle I have ever seen that shot better with a hot barrel.The lady that shoots the shotgun hulls at 200 yds was there today too I asked her if her shot better with a hot barrel and she said hers did too,said when her barrel was gold they scattered all over the place,her husband was shooting a M-16,and he said he allways shot 5 rounds in his before he shot any groups.
I haven' ;t gotten past 100 yds yet because I haven' t gotten any groups that I am satisfied with yet.Have you other savage shooters found that yours shoot better with a hot barrel,after letting the barrel cool for a while,the first shot hits about an inch to the right the next 4 will be touching.
I guess I will have to start reloading them to see if that helps,I ordered a set of dies,anyone with any suggestions will sure be appreciated.
I did notice one thing today,if I stanr the rifle up I can slid a dollar bill all the way down the barrel,if I lay the rifle in a rest,with the weight of the barrel you cannot slide a dollar bill between the stock and barrel at all.The stock is pretty flimsey.

RE: Savage 10 FP
 

Went back to the range and now I think I have the savage doing what it is susposed too.I asked a gunsmith about the flimzy stock and the barrel touching the barrel when I laid it in the rest and he said I need to fill the channels up and bed the action but it would be a while before he could get to it.I got the idea of putting a steel washed on the front bedding block to hold the barrel off stock and he said that wouldn' t work but I am hard headed and wanted to try it anyway,haven' t shot it more thn 100 yds yet but the washer worked very well groups went from scarreting everywhere to small 5 shot groups.I don' t shoot as good as I did say say 20 yrs ago but I think these 5 shot groups are pretty good so far,I used 2 different powders and 3 different amounts of powder and got these groups at 100,.664,.625,.725..599,.542,.611and one .316. Let one fellow shoot a 5 shot group with it ( damn he could shoot,he was shooting clay birds with a 357 pistol open sights @100 yds and a liter pepsi bottle @200 ) and he got a .424 group.Dang he wanted to buy it and I haven' t even got it broke in yet.

RE: Savage 10 FP
 

Seems Herman is getting pretty dialed in to me,wait till the barrel breaks in fully and he gets the stock stiffened a little.A little epoxy and some light tubes or rods in the forend will stiffen that factory stock right up for very little $.Sharp Shooter Supply offers a super synthetic stock from stockade that has an alum. bedding skelton and works great for about $225.The safety is a tang three position safety thats fully factory adjustable for as much or little tension on it as you want,middle position allows opening bolt and unloading without unblocking trigger.I have not seen one so much as hic-cup when feeding in 39 years and have fooled with at least a dozen bolts and half dozen levers in Savage.They are some of the most accurate guns out of the box sold today and the accu-trigger blows all other factory triggers away.I predict most other gun makers will have to come out with their own versions in the future to keep up.




Don' t see too many rifles shooting sub 1/2" groups out of the box like Herman is starting to do huh?Fact I' ve seen some guns with extensive work and money in them that wouldn' t shoot under 1/2" ever no matter what was done for them.You did well Herman and the best is yet to come as you get really tuned in you will start to shoot 1/4" -1/2" groups with regularity.And all for under $500!Try one of those Sharp Shooter stocks if you want a great factory stock alternative.I' m getting ready to get my 12FV 22-250 bedded with one of those stocks and get the action squared and trued,maybe it will tighten up from .4-.5 groups to shooting one ragged hole at 100yds ;) .1-.2 sounds good to me.Keep us posted on your progress and remember bigcountry just don' t " understand" he fell,the rest of us walked. :D


woods

RE: Savage 10 FP
 

i just picked up a 10fp in 308, police trade in, state police went to a rem 700 so the locals followed, 98%, harris bipod, ching sling, leupold varix III 3.5x10, some sorta match trigger, bedded, action tuned up. actually found the P.O. thats who;s rifle it was, and he gaurenteed it; would shoot waaaay better than i could, haven;t shot it yet but the pic of the deer across my room has died a thousand deaths, even told me it;s fav bullet black hills or POWER POINTS!!! HMM maybe i;ll take some vacation time at the range............

RE: Savage 10 FP
 

I recently bought a savage M12 bvss in 22-250 and mounted a 6.5x20 weaver grand slam scope on it. The first load I tried in it was 36 gr H380 in remington brass, fed GM210 primers, and a 55 gr ballistic tip seated out to touch the lands which is 2.517" in my rifle. The first group I shot with it went around .4" . I walked it up to 38.0 grains H380 with everything else the same and now with 150 rounds through it it will average around .3" at 100 yds. It was kind of a let down not having to do any load development to speak of for this rifle. I kind of enjoy working up a load but this thing shot amazing groups from the get go. The accutrigger is wonderful, best factory trigger I' ve ever seen.

I' m a FFL holder and I sold a couple of savages to friends on my recommendation. One guy has a .308 M12 FLV and the other a .22-250 M12 FV. Both of these rifles will easily shoot under 1/2" at 100 yds as well. I' d like to see someone show me any other maker out there where you can pick up three of their rifles and all three will shoot under 1/2" groups. There isn' t any manufacturer (customs excluded) who can provide that level of accuracy consistently other than savage. I wholeheartedly recommend them to anyone who wants a quality, accurate rifle. They' re the best value out there in my opinion.