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Borty77 08-17-2009 07:45 PM

Winchester Ballistic Silvertips
 
What are some of your success/disaster stories with this bullet? Shoulder shots? After reading about ballistic tips blowing up, it has me thinking about continuing use of these bullets for deer because of lack of blood trail etc. I'm sure with a good shot (behind shoulder) they will work fine???


These bullets group very well out of my 7mm08. I have taken one deer with these which fell on the spot. What is your take on the bullet?

skeeter 7MM 08-17-2009 10:55 PM

If it shoots well and has worked in the past then use it. With over 30 game deer sized animals to a BT I have yet to see "the failures" that run rampant on internet threads and such. Never had a poor blood trail actually the opposite, in fact rarily not watched the animal fall in sight. Dead nutz shooters in many of my rifles and IME they flat out work great for our canadian deer.

popeye2 08-18-2009 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by skeeter 7MM (Post 3411024)
If it shoots well and has worked in the past then use it. With over 30 game deer sized animals to a BT I have yet to see "the failures" that run rampant on internet threads and such. Never had a poor blood trail actually the opposite, in fact rarily not watched the animal fall in sight. Dead nutz shooters in many of my rifles and IME they flat out work great for our canadian deer.

skeeter hit the bullseye. I've never had or seen a so-called "failure"
with a BT. IMO, the stories are attempts by some to make excuses for poor shooting.

zrexpilot 08-18-2009 07:56 AM

Theres a debate on whether the moly coated bullets are any good or bad for the barrell. I know I cleaned my friends gun that had been using them and it was like mud coming out of the barrell. They say once you use them you cant use any other bullet. Dont know if its true or not. This gun shot pretty good with them but after cleaning it and trying other ammo it never grouped again. Never put the wins back in it he ended up selling it.

Edcyclopedia 08-18-2009 09:20 AM

I stopped using ST BT after shooting 4 deer and having the bullet split into 4 or 5 pieces each time.

I since use nossler ballistic tips and have good results...

TUK101 08-18-2009 06:50 PM

The cow elk that my pops shot this past year through both shoulders with his .270 at 50 yards dropped dead, bang flop. He has used the Winny Silvertips since they came out and hasn't shot anything else since is how much he believes in them. I will be making him up some this fall for him to try that will be a much cheaper copy.

skeeter 7MM 08-18-2009 10:44 PM

Just to be clarify winchester offers the Ballistic Silver Tip (black coated bullet with a polymer tip - similar to the NBT as nosler makes it for them part of the Combined Technologies umbrella ) & the SilverTip a cup and core bullet (copper and lead tipped). Name is shared but different bullet designs. I know guys who use the silvertip for elk in heavy gr. for caliber offerings. Personally I wouldn't use either but each his own.

Winchester moly loads were Failsafe & Partition Gold. The CT bullets offered currently BT and AB's use lubalox coating like Ridgerunner pointed out.

zrexpilot 08-19-2009 04:34 PM

yep different coating but whats the difference they both grease a barrel

zrexpilot 08-19-2009 05:40 PM

so do you like or dislike the lubaloy all I know is this stuff came out of a barrel forever. It took a long time to get it all out.

skeeter 7MM 08-19-2009 10:48 PM

I reload and use naked bullets. I have never seen the need to trade my nosler boxes for CT bullets. Personally didn't buy into the coated bullets hype. Its not that I dislike them just see no need, I guess.

Teach Deer 08-20-2009 05:02 PM

On game performance from my 7mm Remington Magnum (150 grain BST) was amazing. I hit the buck square through the left shoulder at 75 yards, bullet exited through the rear boarder of the right shoulder...exit wound was about the size of my fist...removed and deposited a sizable portion of the right lung on the bank 10 yards behind the deer.

Deer travel = 0 yards...blood trail was not needed.

This load also consistently groups around 1/2 inch at 100 yards from my Savage 110 and knocks over steel targets at 500 yards all day long...

zrexpilot 08-20-2009 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Ridge Runner (Post 3414521)
zrex,
I've never saw that and I've shot alot of the BST's, If your buddys rounds were loaded with double based (ball) powder, I'm guessing they weren't pushing max pressure and since ball runs really dirty shooting less than max, I'm guessing you were cleaning carbon deposits out of it, didn't see it don't know for sure but thats my best guess.
RR


These were factory winchester BT's out of two different guns.





Originally Posted by Teach Deer (Post 3414557)
On game performance from my 7mm Remington Magnum (150 grain BST) was amazing. I hit the buck square through the left shoulder at 75 yards, bullet exited through the rear boarder of the right shoulder...exit wound was about the size of my fist...removed and deposited a sizable portion of the right lung on the bank 10 yards behind the deer.

Deer travel = 0 yards...blood trail was not needed.

This load also consistently groups around 1/2 inch at 100 yards from my Savage 110 and knocks over steel targets at 500 yards all day long...

The 7 mag is pretty rough on deer, I borrowed one, one time and shot a doe, she went maybe 40 yds and I dont even know how she did that. About a fist size exit wound and blood shot meat from front shoulder to rear ham, I swear!

Rammer 08-21-2009 07:06 AM

I have literally shot close to 1000 of the CT BTs (95gr) out of one of my 243s, and I've never experienced the "mud effect" when cleaning. I will tell you one thing about these bullets, I have never recovered one from any of the 200+ lb deer I've shot, and the distances have varied from 50-519 yards. I've also never had a deer take more than a few steps. I'm probably going to go load up another 150 of them today, and pull the 243 out of retirement again this season.


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