Hello all new here and figured yall had all the answers. I have a 270wsm and a 243wssm and my want has gotten the best of me and was woundering what would be a good new rifle i hunt whitetail and thats bout it but would possibly try elk i was wanting a kinda of all around rifle but trying to stay away from WSM's due to ammo cost and avalibility. Any opinions would be great good bad ugly all is welcome. Thanks Oh and while where at it a good scope for 22-250 father in law gave me one no sure what all its good for except yotes in East Texas

My opinion is 308 WIM it's perfect for both elk and moose
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Scope wise, check out a Bushnell Elite 4200 4-16 X 40. I just put that on a Remmy in .204 Ruger and I really like it.

Rifle wise, I'd say a 30-06 or a .308 would be the bugs nutz.

30-06, 35Whelan or if you handload a 338 Federal or my one of my personal favorites a 338-06. IMO it's tough to beat any of these if you plan on elk hunting with a non-magnum.

if you have a .270wsm and want an all around? personally I see no need for a .270win or .30-06, or .308?

the .243wssm and .270wsm covers everything pretty well up to elk and can still do the job, so the next step up is something like .300win mag or bigger IMO, and if you're saying you mostly just hunt whitetails, just use that .270wsm or .243wssm...

I mean you can double up, but with only 2 rifles I see no need to already be doubling up, but if you really never plan to shoot anything of elk size or bigger I don't really see a need for you to have a .300winmag or larger either.

a 7mm Rem. Mag. might be the cartridge you're looking for though, plenty popular, ammo available, flat shooting, still small enough for deer etc..., though could do the job on big elk etc...though I almost feel like you're doubling up on that .270wsm...

a .338 win mag might be a good option if you wanted to add to your arsenal and kinda cover that next level above your .270wsm.

If you're really against getting a magnum but want a good all around, I think a .30-06 can get it all done for ya, with 180grs it can take the big stuff and do a decent job at it, or a deer with 150/165grs., I'd pick one of those 3.(7mm rem mag, .338win mag, 30-06)

Personally I'd keep what I had, and not double up.

All I use is WSM's and WSSM's and at this point I no longer see a problem with ammo availability. Cost, yes, they're more than 30-06 or standard .270 rounds, but you'd rather pay for a whole new rifle than spend a few bucks more on your ammo? I've found the .270 WSM to be an ideal deer rifle, but if you're dead-set on replacing it as your "all around," you can't beat a good 30-06.

How about a Marlin 336 in 30-30. Your 270 will handle elk if you go for them so just get a good deer rifle since thats what you hunt for the most. The new Hornady Leverrevolution ammo turns the 30-30 into a 250 yard deer gun. As far as buying cheap ammo, I've been getting Winchester's for $14 a box at Walmart.

+1 on 7MM RM (or to handle anything .338 Win and your set in North America).

Thanks was loooking hard at 300win mag or 300wsm kinda want an big gun I have looked at the 450 bushmaster but want little more range. Possible looking at TC Venture of a savage. Is there any diffrence in ballistics of the two 300s I know I said no wsm's but will reconsider.

Get a .308 or 30/'06-ammo is available everywhere, and is not expensive.