280 remington
 

I was looking at some web sites of gun makers and I noticed that there wasnt any guns chambered in the 280 remington, even on the remington site I couldnt find a gun that they even chambered for it. Have they pretty much done away with the 280?

RE: 280 remington
 

I haven't looked recently but Ruger and Browning would be your best bet for finding a new 280. I haven't heard that either of them have dropped the 280.

I don't think Remington has sold anything in 280 in a number of years.

RE: 280 remington
 

I'm a big fan of the .280. Browning makes the .280 in all models of the X-bolt. I went to Remington & Ruger websites and only saw the .280 being listed in the 700 custom series of Remington.

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Like Stalkingbear, I too am a big fan of the .280 Rem.

I just took a look on Remington's web site, and they offer this caliber in the 700 Mountain LSS and the Alaskan TI.

I used to see 700's in .280 on gunbroker.com quite often, but not sure about today with the crazy things going on in the gun market.

RE: 280 remington
 

I bought a Ruger Hawkeye all weather in .280 a few months back.I see it's now listed as discontinued.I guess they're just not selling enough.It's certainly not the cartridges fault.IMO the best of all built off the ol'e 06.

RE: 280 remington
 

Pretty sure Savage is chambering a rifle in .280 stainless, heavy barrel.

RE: 280 remington
 

Remington chambers 2...

700 Alaska Ti.
700 Mountain Rifle LSS

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/centerfire_rifles_by_calibers.asp

RE: 280 remington
 

I am not trying to hijack this thread. Just wanted to let you 280 shooters know, I listed a new set of 280 dies in the for sale section in the guns section.

RE: 280 remington
 

I kinda thought that was strange some of the gun companys dropping the 280. I dont own one, but I know its a great caliber.

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It is weird. Remington has almost dropped the .280 from its line, and now only offers the .260 in its compact Model 7....I don't believe any of the Model 700 models are available in .260.

If a company won't support its own cartridges, who will in the future?

RE: 280 remington
 

My guess is the gun companies build what sells. They aren't geniuses, but they are smart enough to look at sales statistics. Why build them if no one buys them? With the vaunting of the .270 by Jack O'Connor still reverberating, with the fame and fable surrounding the .30-06, with the favorable reception of the 7 mm Magnum, with the great power of the .300 magnums . . . just how much sales omph do you suppose is left for the .280? What kind of guy buys a .280 as their first gun? What kind of guy buys a .280 when they already own a .30-06? What kind of guy buys a .280 when they already own a .270? When you get right down to it, it is probably the guy who owns two .30-06s, a .270, and maybe a .300 mag who just feels he has to have another middling powerful centerfire rifle and also has the necessary funds who buys the .280 . . . and that is probably a pretty thin demographic. This demographic means few sales.

Notwithstanding, I'm told the .280 is a fine cartridge. My son has said he would like to have a .280, just to have something different from most people.

RE: 280 remington
 

I've been hearing the 280 Rem. is dead since i was a kid, and that's a long time ago now... Yet, it's still here, and ammo is still available...

I love my 280, and i've taken one heck of a lot of deer, blk. bear, caribou and other big game with it since i built it in the 70's...

I expect it will be around for a long time in the future too...

DM

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I own 30-06's, 270's, and several 300 Mags of various breeds. I love 'em all. But those who have never used a .280 Rem. to kill deer with just don't understand. There just seems to be something special about the way that 7MM does it's job. I've owned several .280's over the years and very highly recommend them. I will admit my go-to deer rifle anymore is a 7-08.... once again the 7MM cal., just because it's a little lighter for me anymore. Don't let anyone ever talk you out of a .280 Rem. if you want one. It's a real hammer.

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I think Rem has had more to do with it's demise than anything else.When they introed the .280 they underloaded it so it would function smoothly in their new semi auto and pump actions.Same mistake Win made with the .284.Then they decided to give it a new (7mm Express) name along with more power.Then they went back to calling it the .280 again.

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Don't forget the brief time it was labeled the "7mm06".

RE: 280 remington
 

Never heard it called that but I have heard of a wildcat version by that name.Seems to be fairly popular.I just got some 30-06 brass I'm resizing to .280 if that counts:D.

RE: 280 remington
 

I, for one, think the .280 is cool! ;)

RE: 280 remington
 

remington isn't remington anymore . if you remember they were sold to cerebus capital ( or something close to that ) so other people are calling the shots with regards to it , if you also remember , the new company said it was going to streamline or cut the fat off of the company ( or something that means the same thing ). so that may be the byproduct of it , and probably more of the same may soon be coming with other cartridges and rifle models in the current line up.

RE: 280 remington
 

Initially thecartridge was named the 7 mm. Remington Express or somethinglike that. The main "competition" at the time was with the very popular 270 Win.Because sales of the 7 mm Remington Express were very sluggish from the get-go, Remington changed the cartridge name to the "280 Remington". The marketing ploy was to give the hunters the idea thatthe cartridge was "bigger" than the 270 Winchester. Not much truth in that and the idea didn't work. Sales never have been very good.

That is a shame because it is a great idea for a cartridge. In the hands of an accomplished hand loader, the 280 Rem. is about as versitlie as most 7 mm rounds. As mentioned, you can still find listings ofrifles that are chambered for the 280 Rem. Just don't expect to walk into any old gunshop and see a selectionfrom 2-3 makerssitting on the sales rack.Frankly of all the hunters I have come across over the past 47 years, I know of only one that uses the 280 Rem.In my view that explains it all.Good hunting round ... not popular.

RE: 280 remington
 

I love my Rem .280 (700), but I got it years ago. I have had no trouble finding ammo for it either.

RE: 280 remington
 

I'm another big time fan of the .280, I've used that caliber since 1983,
The first rifle I bought in that caliberwas a Ruger M77 and its actually got stamped on the barrel .280rem or 7mm express rem.

I always thought that it was introduced in the late 50s as a .280 and was changed to 7mm express in the early 70s, then back again. If I have a choice I will shoot that caliber till I am no longer able to hunt!

Stalkingbear....I never knew it was ever labelled a 7mm06...thats new to me!

RE: 280 remington
 

Yes, that is how I remember it happening also.

It's interesting to hear all the theories on why the .280 would not be selling, especially the ones that say that it isn't selling because of the strong competition from the .270, 30-06 and 7mm rem mag. If this was true, why would any of the slew of new cartridges developed in more recent years sell at all? The truth is that they probably don't either. A good many have already bit the dust in only a few short years mainly because they don't perform any better than the old reliable cartridges. I can see the gun manufacturers making guns in only the well known standard calibers in the future. I just don't think it's cost effective for them to bring out new calibers. Sure some of the gun nuts will want to buy them, but in general I just don't think there are enough of these people left out there to really make a substantial improvement in a gun companies earnings.

RE: 280 remington
 

It first came out as a .280 later they revamped it and called it the 7mm express remington. Later the name went back to the .280. The only thing that changed was they loaded it a bit hotter. They had underloaded it so it would work properly in there 7400 auto rifles.