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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...rge-gun-sales/


"President-elect Barack Obama's election has spurred a surge in gun sales, firearms retailers and enthusiasts say,as gun owners brace for what they believe will be a new era of gun control in Washington.
An electronic news service that covers outdoor news has even named Obama its "Gun Salesman of the Year."
Firearms associations began to suspect that political considerations were driving gun sales late last year as the number of background checks increased. But end-of-year figures showed a big spike in background checks for the last three months of 2008, and in November, the month Obama was elected, the number of background checks was 42 percent greater than in November 2007."

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I can definately believe that. The local gun shops around here are booming. Handguns, black rifles, and many others are flying off the shelves. The owner of my favorite gun shop told me he can go on two or three hunting trips this year thanks to the extra income from Obama becoming president.

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or could it be that George w Bush has the country in such a schamble that people want guns to protect what they have from people who lost there jobs and will have to resort to steeling to pay there bills. or just gun shop owners starting a panic to sell more guns . i think the pres has enough to worry about after 8 years of bush to worry about guns for awhile,i am a avid gun owner and im not worried at all about gun control im worried about how im going to make a pay chech to keep my family fed and dry, negativity isnt going to help matters get behind our new pres and give him a try it .wont be easy but hes alot better than major pain and his side show.

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What an ignorant comment. Now George Bush is making people "steel" Typical victim mentality. People run up their C/C bills, dont save for a rainy day, and dont worry about "feeding and keeping their family dry" until the economy is in the dump, but thats Bush's fault, right? Hey Mr Avid gun owner, dont worry, the "messiah" takes office in 4 days and the media will start mysteriously reporting good news, about the economy, thereafter ,and we can all go back to living high on the hog, like the 1st 6years of the bush administration, you know, before Obama's party, took control of the house and senate? Just save your nickles this time, cause your gonna need em when you go to buy ammo after the messiah gets done taxing it.( That is the ammo thats still legal after the new AWB)

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Wow......Just unbelievable.....How some people think....????? Wow....

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what a ignorant coment typical of what has ran the country to where we are today .bush never did anything to save jobs but he sure as hell made sure that he broke people when they went to the pumps. he never did anything to stop deregulations no its not all his fault it takes many to do it, but for the last 8 years he just ignored it ,im not trying to get in a words of whit with someone that evidently knows it all .all im saying is we have to make the best of what we got, like it or not .i guess the people that work at GM -Chrisler-and ford are supose to just say well we just spent to much . the companys are the ones who were supose to save for a rainey day also ,but instead they give there CEOs millions and us tax payes have to pay in the end .your worried about something that may happen, instead of something that already has and needs to be fixed. and dont worry about me i will have enough ammunition to feed my family. messiah what a joke.

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I agree DeerandbehrhoG - good post!

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Riverboss:

If you want to save US jobs, then I recommend that you not buy the Brazilian made Taurus 1911 you are considering.

http://www.hunting.net/forum/tm.aspx?m=3291663&mpage=1&key=&#329166 3

Save your money and buy the Kimber if that is truly important to you.

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wow....i am amazed at some gun owners...put your head ALL the way under the sand...

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The housing run-up and sub-prime mortgage mess started under CLINTON's watch...it simply continued under Bush. There is plenty of blame to go around to BOTH parties, anyone who claims one or the other is at fault is gullible to their favorite party's line.

The incredible power of large investers (pension funds, 401ks, etc etc) is what has driven the last major moves of our economy. In the late 1990s it was the tech boom....everyone wanted to invest in tech stocks and anyone with a computer and a so-called business plan could get investment money. Then that turned south, but the investments had to go somewhere....so they went to real estate. The housing bubble was created, and exacerbated by the sub-prime mortgage mess (started under Clinton). The money poured into the mortgage trades. Every idiot who took an adjustable APR mortgage or one they could not afford is every bit as much at fault for this as any bank or investor. Our whole economy for a decade has been run on credit -- people buying mortgages and crap on credit cards they can't afford and don't need.

So when real estate started going south guess where the money went....commodity futures. Oil spiked to $145/barrel, and as we all know copper and lead headed through the roof and drove the price of ammo sky high. It's the SPECULATION that drove all this, NOT BUSH. Give me a break. Some people seem to think the President is God and has personal control of everything, it's ridiculous.

Now commodities crashed too and much of that wealth they were looking for a place doesn't exist anymore....it never really did, it was a product of people spending on credit and home equity loans on house value that didn't really exist. The system would correct and we could move forward with a sane financial condition if the gov't didn't feel the need to screw it up and waste money trying to get back to an unsustainable system that fell under its own bloated weight.

Obama won't have time to go for gun legislation? You just wait and see. OBAMA doesn't need time, as the President does not have the power to introduce legislation -- only Congress can do that. All it takes is ONE Congressman who thinks they now have the votes to take away our rights, and they're off to the races.

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You said that right....however, he can call one of his 'buddies' into the oval office and tell them to write it up.

Im sure too things will get signed into law that he doesnt even know is in the writing. anyone that claims the president reads all the wording of a bill is full of it. he gets briefed, he asks if he's suppose to sign or veto, and then does so accordingly.

Buy them if you want them...and do so fast. clocks ticking!

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Fellas, all this logic is wasted on the average citizen, even the ones who own guns. It takes way too much effort, and self accountability, to figure out the real reasons ,why the economy goes through ups and downs. Its alot easier to sit in front of the boob tube, and let comedians and socialists tell you who's to blame.

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I know I'm not the only one that needs to call BS on this.

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Bravo.

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wasted on the average citizen, i guess you think your something special ,well your not there are people who have lost there jobs and spent there savings because they believed it was going to get better,while alll the time they were being lied to were not in a recession every things ok ,bull**** ,yea alot off people lost there homes because they couldnt afford them in the first place, bush was to buisseycounting his money off of oil to care,unemployment at a 25year high and predicted to just go higher and higher and all you can worry about is speculation of gun control. your an idiot there are alot grand parents that lost retirement money and now have to go without the things that they need just to survive, do i think obama can make it all better ? no but im not going to listen to a bunch of gun dealers trying to start a panic just so they can boost there income . and yes i do know that gun control is coming, do i care ,yes ,am i worried, no theres nothing i can do about it , but getting on the computer and whinning about it isnt going to do anything but give the news media more to talk about ,sometimes if you keep air off of a fire it wont spread as fast , do i blame everything in bush no ,but he defanitly could off done better .and if you dont think that hard working people who lose there jobs and cant pay there bills wont resort to steeling to survive you dumber than i thought.

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I havent been on here for along time,I have to respond to you riverboss.I know and so does everyone else the Pres.Bush could of done some things better.No one will ever do all the things right to suit everyones needs.But to blame Bush for the whole crisis!! Lets see this whole mess started with Pres. Carter no one payed much attention to it cause lending to people who couldnt afford the loan was a small problem at the time.The loan program increased with liberal leadersship in 1998-1999.Congress had afew members who were pushing for a more liberal loan process,to include more minorities.I personally saw 350,000.00loans to people who couldnt afford 100,000.00 homes.Then in 2006 the congress was invaded with liberals (Barney Frank,Nancy Pelosi,Harry Reid,Chris Dodd,Barbra Boxer and now even Al Franken?? wow). They knew the problem was there and didnt fix it.They sit on the hands and blamed Bush and all corparations for the problems.It just made me sick to see Chris Dodd debate the ceo's of fanny & freddie.Him and Frank should be ran out of congress and maybe put on trial.
They are going to keep things the way they are till 2010 then watchout.If the dems stay in control they will push a liberal agend that will shock most of us.Gun control,health care,social programs that will take our corparations down.They blame the rich for every thing well let me ask you how many poor people have you worked for?????
They have this BS about global warming no proof just a money trail.I hope when they are done you can still afford you electric bill.
I could go on but you my freind need to pay attention to their BS and read below the head lines.Obama is not the messiah liberals just try to make you think he is a knight in golden armor.I hope it doesnt rain on him for our sake!!!!

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to start off with i am not a democrat i didnt vote for obama, i dont think obama is the messiah, im not blaming every thing on bush, but i do think that he defanitly could of done more ,and i have worked at a middleclass job all my life,ive seen what insurance companys have done to my occupation for the last 10 years in particular.and ive seen many of my friends and familys have to scratch out a living and watch others pay go down every year as a direct effect , business that send work over seas and then give there CEOs golden parachutes and watch the company go down the drain you should be able to buy a pair of nike shoes for 20 dollars but they put everyone that is good at sports on a multimillion dollar contract and let someone in a foreign country work for pennys on the dollar and give there CEOs millions instead of keeping americans working . its not bushes fault its not anyone in particulars fault but something has to give. if you think that your imune to it think again it can happen to anyone of us .im just using nike as a example there are plenty of companys that do it. we need to stop worring about other countrys so much and fix ours we are the greatest nation in the world but we are being looked at like were chumps.we are all equal but some people think they are better than others. the quote average citizens is bull**** that makes it seem that they are better and there not i hope that you dont ever have to see your job disapper but if you do just remember there are still people out here that care and can feel your pain.

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:D ...and you have the nerve to call me an idiot?:D Man, you really live in a dream world dont you? News flash, most people dont save money, they have DEBT!!!,they dont have savings, to spend when the economy goes south, as you claim. Dont you realize that if people saved their money and didnt run up their C/C bills, buying harleys, vactions, golf memberships and other crap they couldnt afford, instead of paying their mortgages and bills, the economy wouldnt be in the state its in, in the 1st place? Dont you realize its was the housing market that was the 1st thing to go in the crapper , which caused the credit crisis and so on, how was bush to blame for that?

Why dont you grow up ,and take some responsibility, for your own economic situation? Am I doing great, no, but Im at least mature enough to realize I coud have made better economic decisions ,when the economy was good for most of the bush years, and learn from them. Im not gonna blame the president like you.

Since you claim to already have enough guns and ammo to care about gun control( how thoughtful of you) then why dont you save the $$$ you were gonna spend on that brazilian made, staurday night special, you WANT, and put a few buck in the bank, if your so "worried about feeding your family" Im sure youll just continue to spend spend spend, what little money you have ,and just blame bush when you cant pay for your groceries and gas though. Like I said, typical, 21st century, victim mentality.

IMO its selfish, govt dependant, whiners like you, that continue to drive nail after nail, in the coffin of this, once great country. I hope your proud of yourself.

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And THIS my friends, is why the world is doomed. There are MILLIONS of people like him.....[:'(]

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No, you didnt blame bush for everything you just put the entire economic blame on him, and claimed its his fault, people will start stealing. Gimme a break! This topic was about obammas obvious anti gun voting record and what his election has done for guns sales. You went ahead and tried to blame bush , bit of stretch at that, but now you wanna back peddal cause you realize how rediculous you sound.

As far as people thinking theyre special, I'd say your, "I got my guns and bullets so who cares if obama bans them now" attitude, shows how much you care about everyone else ,and the rights of the average citizen. Im simply stating a fact, about the way many people handle their finances and get political views from late night talk shows and comedy central. Heck ,your proof of that.

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for your information im not in dept i dont even own a credit card. but i dont have to explain my self to a stuped dumb ass like you . if you would read what i said instead of getting so upset because your butt bumping soon to be ex presidents name was brought up then you would understand . i said that i didnt blame him for all of it but he could of done more that being said im done trying to explain anything to your pathetic dumb ass. and i didnt say that he was the reason that people would start steeling its all of the crap that been going on for years .you realy need to grow up and start seeing whats going on in the real world not your pathetic little dream. if your not part of the fix then your part of the problem .now im done ,do you know what that means or do you need a dictionary.

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1st of all, try to have an original thought, instead of repeating the same things back to me, that I just said to you. Shouldnt surprise me though, since you seem to repeat all the stuff you hear on television. Oh, Im sure you dont own one of those either, right?:eek:

2nd, stop trying to back pedal from what you said in your 1st post ,in the topic. You sure as heck did say the economy is bush's fault, which will cause people to resort to "STEELING". Dont deny it, its there for everyone to read ,so just man up ,and admit you were wrong, or at least stand by your narrow minded statement.

Then again what does a "stuped dumb ass" like me know?:D

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As has been pointed out, you DID say it was his fault. And he's not "mine", I didn't really like him either. My my, for calling others ignorant and immature you have a post full of personal attacks.

I don't think you will be very successful convincing people you have an insightful and intelligent opinion when I have to read your post three times to understand it due to all the spelling and gramattical errors....

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The posts insulting other members have been removed. You can disagree about what affect (or not) that either Bush or Obama will have on gun control, etc. but you cannot insult each other.

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The above statement makes it quite clear that you are completely ignorant regarding basic economic principles. Explain for us allhow the president manipulates the world oil prices?

Government regulation is what got us into this banking mess in the first place and the Civilian Reconstruction ACT (under Clinton) allowed the GSEs (Fannie and Freddy)to withhold only 2.5% capital vs 10% for private banking companies. This created very cheap capital (and high risk capital)for morgages and that created the housing bubble. With only 2.5% capital on hand the inherent risk was raised by over 400%. You blame Bush but the Bush administration sent a letter to congress nearly four years ago urging that Fannie and Freddie be required to meet higher banking standards or a failure was likely. Now I am sure you will remain in denial of thisso I have attached a link with actual House Testimony with Republicans (the ones being blamed) demanding stricter practices be enforced on Fannie and Freddie and Democrates saying nothing is wrong. Keep in mind that this was 2004 and this mess could have been avoided if the Dems had not blocked it. Spend 5 minutes watching this and it will be clear to any thinking person that the Dems are to blame!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

Thelabor cost atGM, Chysler, and Fordis $74.00 per hourfor basicassembly work. The competition including Honda and Toyota are onlypaying $42.00 per hour. Growing up in Pittsburgh I witnessed the same situation with the domestic steel companies. I remember one of my friends telling me he was harrased for working to fast. One of the union stewarts told him "This mill was was here before you where born, and it will be here when you die. So why are you in such a hurry boy" Needless to say thesteel millis now long out business and no taxpayer bailout was initiated. Until their wage costs go down the domestic automakers are doomed to bankrupcy.

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Owned.

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The Kimber? Or the Taurus?

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EPIC FAIL

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Oh c'mon CalHunter.
I was kind of wondering when parentage and upbringing was going to be brought into it. :D