Ruger 9MM
 

Thinking about a 9mm Ruger single/ double decocker with hi capacity round mags.
found one at the gun shop for 345.00 in Stainless with a 4 inch bbl and fixed rear sights. I think its a P95 any thoughts on this? good gun for plinking/HD?
Any one got suggestions for another gun in the same price range?

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

I've shot them and played with them a little. They are rugged, reliable, easy to disassemble, but by and large, not known for their accuracey. The one I had would do 3-4" at 25 yd. from a rest. Certainly good enough for defense.

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

As mentioned above, if you're looking for competition accuracy, look somewhere else. Just for fun and self defense, its a great gun!
-Jake

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

I did a lot of reading about them and looked at them even. I really like them and they are really nice guns however, I will say that I much preferred the SR9 over the P95 after looking at both. I'd take a look at the SR9. That sounds a little high for a P95 but maybe not as when I priced them was about 6 months ago.

As said above they are not the most accurate but they are known for being very reliable and accurate enough to just have fun with. They are overall good guns.
I think I found the P95's from $329.99 to $339.99. I found a few higher than that but that's around what most seemed to cost. The $329.99 was one on sale but at the same time I think you should be able to get places down to at least that most of the time. That was for the stainless version just like you were looking at.

Honestly though I'd take a strong look at the Ruger SR9 instead. Just felt much nicer to me and I liked it a lot better. A lot of guys like the Springfield XD's also however, for some reason I liked the Ruger better when looking at them and just had my mind set on one.

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

if you want a great pistol go with the SR9. slim lean and quick to handle. Shoots great, accuarte and just has a great feel.
You'll love it.
-Jake

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

I've had a LOT of experience with the P series Rugers. I recommend you choose 2 things-standard safety instead of decocker, and metal (aluminum) frame. The safety model will still decock when engaged, but will also act as safety, whereas the decocker is just that. I think the alloy frame choice over the plastic version is self explanitory, as some of the Ruger plastic frames do NOT have steel frame inserts for the slide to ride on. I don't remember the exact models which has plastic and which feature steel inserts.

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

[quote]ORIGINAL: stalkingbear

I've had a LOT of experience with the P series Rugers. I recommend you choose 2 things-standard safety instead of decocker, and metal (aluminum) frame. The safety model will still decock when engaged, but will also act as safety, whereas the decocker is just that. I think the alloy frame choice over the plastic version is self explanitory, as some of the Ruger plastic frames do NOT have steel frame inserts for the slide to ride on. I don't remember the exact models which has plastic and which feature steel inserts.
[/quote

I have as well and the P series are excellent firearms! However, they have their problems as well the the P89 is the best version in my opinion, PERIOD! If you like the double action version?
However,the new SR-9 is a better option, because it isn't double action which requires alot more trigger pull on DB action position. Yes they are very accurate and I have owned several. But the double action pull is extremely hard (27lbs++) so I havea ruger SR-9 with the trigger conversion they offer, from the recall they have had. I will tell you the Ruger SR-9 is the best handleing semi-auto i have ever held and fired. 1st and formost I have small hands and long fingers. so the SR-9 fits me perfectly. The slim grip and the extra action trigger pull could not have been better designed than if I had sent it to them myself. But again this is my opinion. the other option is the SR-9 comes with night sites, not optioned on the 89?
e-mail me at [email protected] if you wish to discuss options?
Thanks

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

I will be in the market for a 9mm as soon as New York gets around to processing my CCW application, and after reading this thread i have been reading everything I can find online about the SR9 and it looks pretty good.

One thing I am curious about, I have seen a few places where people say that the slide doesn't lock open after the last round is fired. Those of you that have experienced the gun, is this true? Is that unusual for a gun of this type? I have only fired a few handguns, and the slide on them all stayed open when the gun was emptied.

What prices have you seen for an SR9? I have seen people online mentioning $380 - $500.


I got the money set aside, and I'm just sitting here waiting on the permit from the state... I'm like a kid the night before Christmas, except the night lasts for months!

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

I remember when Ruger first brought out their P-85 pistol. I sold so many of them that it was not even funny. And I returned a bunch of them to Ruger. I actually returned some that when shot at a chest high target at 25 yards, the bullet would strike the floor. Then there was the next P series. Not much better. It is hard to recommend a pistol when you have a bad taste in your mouth because of the history of the pistol But then I can remember how bad the S&W 39 was also.

If you are getting a 3-4 inch group at 25 yards from a Ruger then you should be happy with that. That is as good as anyone I have ever seen shoot.

My suggestion is save your money and buy a better pistol. But I am sure I will get flamed for saying that. But so be it. However I can say that I have owned and shot a few dozen P series auto's over the years. And I would never even consider letting my life depend on one of them. Tom.

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

I have never shot the SR9, but I have seen them shot at my club. I noticed that the slide stop either does not work correctly, or the gun is not designed to lock theslide open after the first shot (not sure which is the case).

I would recommend the P95 with decock onlyand not a manualsafety if you go with a P95. The P95is a very strong and realiable handgun. Ruger says it is approved for+P and +P+.A lot ofself defense trainers prefer a handgun without a manualsafety unless itis a single action 1911 (not recommended for the occasional shooter). They alsopreferto NOT have a magazine disconnect (check your local gun laws). If you do not shoot a lot, I think the Springfield XD may bethe best choice. This gun has the grip safety and trigger safety, and the recoil is low for a polymer handgun. Start out the the NRA Basic Pistol course and then move to the NRA Personal Defense courses.

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

Huh? It doesn't lock the slide open after one shot. It does however lock it open when the magazine is empty. It should do it everytime you empty fire the last round out of the magazine. If it doesn't something is wrong with it.

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

That's one of the nicer things about the SR9 over previous models. It has adjustable sights. Ours is very accurate about 5 yards away or so and I can hit stuff up to about 20 yards away. Past that I can't have much luck hitting stuff and I think I'd be better at 20 yards if I adjusted the sights.

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

I meant after the last shot. I saw a person shooting one this past weekend, and the slide also did not lock open after the last shot. I don't know if this is firearm was malfunctioning or if this is how it was designed. I can't imagine why if it is designed that way, but then again I can't imagine why anyone would design a magazine disconnect.

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

Ours locks open after the last shot and that's how it's supposed to be. I have read a few reviews of it malfunctioning and not locking open every time however, I've never seen this in person. What exactly is a magazine disconnect? The magazine safety where it wont shoot without the magazine in it or are you referring to something else?

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

Hey guys Thanks for the response. Went to a gun shop and looked at the choices. Couldnt find the Sr9. One of the guns I picked up was a used ruger and I noticed the slide wobbled or had play(after it was released) not sure how many rounds It had thru it.
Still looking.:)

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

For a SR9 around here I called around and a few places had it instock. The gun shop I like to deal with didn't have it and still doesn't have one instock. I think most of their guns seem to be used. Well, handguns anyway although they have a few new ones. They said they had a waiting list of 9 people for the newer Ruger 9mm which I'm assuming was the SR9 he didn't remember what the model was just that it was the newer one and that's the newest one I know of so I assume it was the same one. He told me he could check but I told him not to worry about it. Unless it was a the LCP but that isn't a 9mm so I kind of doubt it. I ended up finding a few other places that had them instock though.

This was 6 months ago but I still haven't seen one instock there.

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

Wow are prices going WILD on anything with a hi cap mag. The Shot show is this week and prices seem to be going up once more.
Is anyone finding wide price swings on prices form shop to shop? I found a beretta 92 fs 9mm for 565.00 at one shop (with 3 mags) and it was 499.00 at another shop, 585.00 at another.
any problems getting ammo for 9mm?

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

Perhaps you misunderstand how the Ruger P series pistol safetys actually work. The safety version will STILL safely decock the pistol, but can be left on safety, whereas the decocker only has NO manual safety, and is merely decock ONLY. The decocker lever will NOT stay in decock position but the safety will remain on safety until taken off safety. Anyway, I consider the safety/decocker better than decocker only but that is just MY preference.

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

I had the older P89 and that was a nice gun. I'd imagine the P95 would only be improved. $345 is kinda high imo, but it depends on the condition and what gun prices are where you live.

And no problems getting 9mm ammo. It's dirt cheap too. Much better than $0.50 - $2.00 a bullet for .45 ACP!! Shoot 50 rounds in a few minutes at the range and walk away down $25.00. 50 rounds is not a lot! 9mm on the other hand is cheap enough to fire 3-4 times that much for the same price. 150-200 rounds for $25-$30. Makes me jealous and wish I still owned a 9mm. :(

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

Where are you seeing those prices? About the cheapest I've found is the Winchester White Box Ammo from Wal-Mart which is $19.99 or whatever. It's $19 something for 100 rounds. I saw a sale at Dicks and if you bought a whole case you could get it slightly cheaper but not much.

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

I understand very well how the safety works on the RugerP95. You canNOT carry it cocked at locked. If you havea model with the safety, you musttake the safety off after you decock thefirearm. I don't like thisfor a gun that could beused for self defense. If the P95it is in double action mode (hammer down) you have a long, hard trigger pull to fire. This is a safety in itself. However, the best safety is keeping your finger off the trigger until you are on target and ready to shoot.

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

HTM,

The price gap between 9MM and 45 ACPfor factory loaded ammohas really shrunk - especially the last few months.

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

I have seen the SR9 several places online where people said the SR9 was under 400 (gun reviews, various other websites). So yesterday I was in the mall and stopped by Gander Mountain to see if they had one, and their price is an even 500. Are the prices higher because i live in the socialist state of new york, because i was at Gander Mountain, or both?

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

IMO, GM can be very high on just about everything - espcially firearms and ammo. It is not uncommon for the same thing to occur outside of NY.

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

Exactly, those are the prices I am referring to. $20 for 100 rounds of 9mm. $25 for 50 rounds of .45ACP. That is 2.5x cheaper. A friend just told me he bought 50 rounds of 9mm for $8.99, which is almost 3x cheaper. I guess I should correct what I said, as I just threw that first number of 3-4x out without thinking too hard about it. You can get 2-3 times as much ammo for the same price. Not 3-4 times as much.

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

I can STILL reload for for my .45acp for MUCH less than you can buy ANY factory 9mm.:D

RE: Ruger 9MM
 

6 months or so ago I called around and got prices and I found one I think was $419 and one was $417 or something like that. One was $429. Some weren't that good but I didn't find any cheaper. Now like I said that was 4-6 months ago and gun prices seem to have gone up like crazy so I'm not sure what you could find them for now.