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Hi there, I just returned from my annual deer hunt and was fortunate to down a nice 4 point whitetail.I am the guy with the 40 year old Remington Model 742 Jam-o-matic. Luckily the 1st shot was good, as the buck took off and after the 2nd shot the gun jammed....again. Anyway I have decided to buy a new rifle as I need dependability. Ilike .30-06 am looking at the BAR LongTrac in black matte. Any of you guyz had personal experience with this firearm ? Thanks for any comments...in 2009 I will not be using the ol' girl anymore, she has served me very well over the years. My son (25 years old) wants to inherit her, so, he can have the associated problems along with the very successful history of this gun... Al

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It's just me personally but i like the steel recievered bar safari model.

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Thx for your input.
Al

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I have a BAR LongTrac in .300 Mag. It is very ammo sensitive. It won't cycle Federal ammo at all and is intermitten with both Remington and Winchester. This is the last auto-loader I will buy. I would stick with a bolt action. Good luck with your decision.

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I had a shorttrac 300 WSM that shot MOA with factory ammo. NEVER a malfunction with any ammo. I sold it because the 300 WSM was overkill for whitetail. I have since replaced it with a 308 shorttrac and I have had great resuslts withit. 1.5" groups with Remington Core Lokts and no malfunctions. I like the feel of the shortrac over the standard BAR. I would highly recommend both the shorttrac and standard BAR.

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I have a BAR but just the regular BAR. Mine is a 1990 model. As you can see in my other posts I've had lots of issues getting it to group well. However, once I found the ammo it likes it groups pretty well at 100 yards and I'm once again loving it. I've honestly never had it jam no matter what ammo I've shot. It loves Federal Fusions. I've shot lots and lots of rounds of Winchester Power Points/Soft points, several boxes of Winchester Silvertips(Loves these at 50 yards but I was having trouble at 100), and Ballistic Silvertips, and a few boxes of Remington Core Lokts.

It is ammo sensitive. Very sensitive that is but not with jamming just with it only likes to shoot tight groups with certain ammo or so it seems. It's a fun gun to shoot once you figure out the ammo it likes.

I like mine quite a bit. Especially when I'm not trying to sight it in. Just has a great feel to it.

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If you're TRULY looking for reliability, then semi-autos are probably not the ideal choice. Even the best autoloaders will malfunction, whether it be due to ammunition, maintenance, weather, etc.

+1 Get a bolt-action (a good first shot is a good first shot)

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If the "need for speed" is an issue, I would consider a Remington .30-06 pump. It will fire aimed shots just about as fast as a semi-auto, and is much more reliable and accurate.Also, you should note thateven the most inexperienced shooter can fire follow up shots with a bolt action faster thanmost experienced shooters can cleara stoppage in a semi-auto.

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I can't say mine is quite as accurate as some other guns I've seen but it's accurate enough. However, both this and a Ruger semi auto I have have never once jammed on me. I can't say that about my Remington pump shotgun. I've got a few semi auto's that have jammed but for the most part I've found them to pretty reliable as long as you keep them clean and what not. I much much prefer semi auto's to pumps or bolt actions. Although, I don't mind bolt actions soo much. I just don't really like pumps.

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After the first trigger squeeze it shouldn't matter! ; If it does you probably screwed up!