what are the pros and cons about these guns

1911
Pro' s
A timeless classic. Battle proven around the world. Very durable, very reliable, very accurate. It also has the most after market accessories of any hand gun out there. It is very customizable. I have a custom 1911 in 10mm that is an awsome handgun.

Cons
They can be rather pricy and the cheaper ones sometimes need to be worked on to always feed flawlessly.

Glock
Pros
Very reliable, fairly accurage design. Inexpensive, and about indestructable. The GLocks come in a wide range of sizes and configurations to fit your needs. Some people also perfer to carry a loaded glock over a 1911 because they are afraid of the cocked and locked position of a 1911 hammer.

Cons
I personaly feel they are kind of ugly, blocky, mishapen things. They dn' t particularly fig my hand very well and I" m not that fond of their sites. THey are not as customizable as the 1911 style pistol either.

I agree with Mr. Sorensen except on the cons of the Glock. With the exception of the sights, I hate Glock sights. Novak, Ashley or Trijicion are great on a Glock though. Every day there are more and more aftermarket parts for the Glock. Check out http://www.glockmeister.com to see a good many options. Also http://www.robarguns.com for the high price custom jobs. ( I myself prefer the Glock the way it is, but to each his own) They are ugly though which I don' t mind. Thier work horses and they do very well. Though some people do have problems with " the feel" of the plastic. Each person has there own tastes. Both are fine weapons as long as you buy the 1911 from a good company i.e.,,, Kimber, Para, Colt, Springfield etc... and not from Llama, Charles Daly, etc...

Try and hit a range where you can rent one of each and see which one feels right for ya' .

Same dilemma, so I bought both. And love both equally in their own right. Just like children. You really don' t have a favorite, just love each one differently.

i;ve had my glock about 2months now and their isn;t one thing i would change, the sights really don;t bother me all that much, the trigger took a bit to get used to but i;m over it.

i;d really like to get a nice fullsize kimber but a few other guns might come first

Pauly for what you' ll pay for that Kimber you can buy a Baretta / Taurus ( same gun ), and have money left over for other goodies. On the other hand when the military switched over to the Barettas from the 1911 it broke my heart.

I' ve heard at the range that glocks don' t like lead bullets. Gums up the internal workings or something.

Has anyone else heard this?

That may increase ammo costs.

On the lead thingy. It has something to do with the " hexagonal" rifling. Something about gumming up , blah blah blah. You can get an aftermarket barrel if you have to shoot lead. The glockmeister site has a lot of options. I like that site, anything you could ever want for a Glock. Like has been said in this post, they are both good guns, you will not go wrong with either. I hated Glocks until I bought my model 23. I only bought it cuz I got a good deal. After I shot it I loved it. Good luck and let us know what you choose, and how it shoots!

I' ve had my mod. 22 .40 cal Glock since 1994. Since then I have put at least 10,000 rounds downrange, ( just a guestimation ). I reload on a old Dillon RL450. I would reload 400 rds once a week and shoot them all in one session. Those reloads are 155 gr. Meister cast bullets and my barrell still looks new. I would usually fire a couple of mags of factory self defense loads at the end of each session to check reliability. Since I have had that pistol, I have not had one single jam, misfire, stovepipe, or malfunction. In my mind that is pretty amazing. Now with that said, If ya want to get a Kimber, ya outa do it. I have wanted a Kimber for years, I finally bought an Eclipse Ultra II, it is a great pistol. There is a lot to be said about the " pride of ownership "

It is rumored that Glock' s Hexagonal riflings cause severe leading buildups which are associated with Glocks going KaBoom. I have shot lead out of my Glock 30, while it was very accurate - it did lead heavily. However, I wasn' t using a high quality cast bullet like sothrdnk was.

I have a Colt MK IV Series 80 pistol that has seen some considerable modifications. I love it and I also love both my Glock 30 and Glock 21.