im so sick of the short magnum hype
 

people... its the same thing as the long magnum except in a short action. they've performed well! so buy them! oh. and if u have a 300 winchester mag and want a 300 wsm.. then buy it.. but they'll perform about the same..
i think short magnums have been hyped WAY TOO MUCH. i think the 300 wsm would've been ok if it was the only one.. but with the introduction of what? 3 other short mags... argh!! i can't stand it!!!!

*i just had to get this off my chest*

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RE: im so sick of the short magnum hype
 

I couldn’t agree with you more, if you want one of the new magnums by all means go out and buy one they are great rounds.

But,

I just don’t see where they are the saviors of the shooting world they seem to be billed as. I have a friend that just bought a 300 WSM and was joking with me about my antique 300 Weatherby Mag ( all in good fun ). So out comes the reloading data and guess what? The 300 Weatherby spanked the WSM. Weight? My mark V was lighter. Accuracy? We don’t know yet, but I can shoot sub MOA all day long with my “antique”

If you want a short magnum buy it they really are a nice round. Just remember those of us out there with the “older” magnums might not get all that worked up over them.

RE: im so sick of the short magnum hype
 

I am sick of it too. BTW, in the reloading data the 300 Win Mag edges the 300WSM too. The only data that says otherwise is Winchester's factory load ballistics tables and they are smoking something over there to get the numbers that they came up with.

RE: im so sick of the short magnum hype
 

I think that the only reason Win. came up with the WSM line is because profits were falling, and they needed something to get people interested in buying guns again. I believe that Rem. only introduced their short mags to counter Win. I'm tired of hearing all of this "stuff" about these short mags too, I think we should stick with the 30-06 and traditional mags.

RE: im so sick of the short magnum hype
 

Welcome to Marketing 101. Its all about sales.

RE: im so sick of the short magnum hype
 

Well, for people that so sick of it, everyone seems to be bringing it up everytime it started quieting down.

RE: im so sick of the short magnum hype
 

If I didn't have a .300Win Mag I'd get one of the Ultra Mags. Not needing that belt to headspace in a bolt action is supposed to be an improvement. The accuracy can supposedly be affected as the cases distort from use. That belt supposedly keeps them from being resized back to spec. I never personaly had this happen; but I know something happens at or after about the third go-round from talking to other magnum shooters. Or is it thier reloading technique??? I only neck-size my cases.

RE: im so sick of the short magnum hype
 

I really like what I've seen from the 7mm and .300 WSM so far as far as ballistics. I've always been a sucker for short action guns though. But I won't buy one for at least a few years as I really don't care to reload if I don't have to. And who knows what will stick around with both winchester and remington coming out with their own version at basicly the same time. I just can't believbe that all those cartridges will stick around for long.

RE: im so sick of the short magnum hype
 

It will be interesting to see if there is room for both the Remington and the Winchester short mags. My guess is one of the two will not do very well.

RE: im so sick of the short magnum hype
 

I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT I'M NOT THE ONLY SYNICAL SOUL LEFT. AND I AGREE WITH 340WBY THAT THESE ROUNDS ARE SELLING A BOAT LOAD OF RIFLES AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT THESE "INDEPENDENT" TEST RESULTS ABOUT FACTORY LOAD PERFORMANCE SEEM A LITTLE BLOATED. AND AT 275LBS I DON'T THINK THAT MY RIFLE WEIGHING 6.5#'S INSTEAD OF 7#'S IS THAT BIG A DEAL... I'LL JUST HAVE ONE PIECE OF CAKE AND CARRY THE "HEAVY" RIFLE INSTEAD OF HAVING SECONDS AT DESERT.

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RE: im so sick of the short magnum hype
 

Come on Biggun...

Have your cake and eat it too....

We sure make a big deal out of 8 oz. Heck, if I emptied out all the gear, shells, etc out of my pockets I'd save 3-4 lbs...lol

RE: im so sick of the short magnum hype
 

YEA BORCH, I WYPED THE ICING OFF MY CHIN AND WEIGHED MY RIFLE ONE TIME AND I THINK IT WAS 48 OR 49LBS.

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RE: im so sick of the short magnum hype
 

I am at the point that when I see anything about a short magnum, I skip over it.

RE: im so sick of the short magnum hype
 

I think I'll wait to see which maker's cartridges will be around 2-3 years from now and after some real information circulates as to thier performance. THEN I'll make my decicion. If one of the 6.5, 270 or 7mm variants survive and lives up to it's rep. I,d pick one of those. Note the 6.5 is a wildcat or at least for now. Probably build a heavy barrel varmint splatter if a factory version ain't available by then.

RE: im so sick of the short magnum hype
 

Borch, I know what you mean about weight. I bet my fanny pack weighs 9 pounds.

RE: im so sick of the short magnum hype
 

Guys, I'm over 50 and my magnum is just a little younger than me. It's an old model 70 in 300H&H and any animal that I might ever shoot with it will not be able to tell the difference between it and a 300wm or a 300wsm. The only thing I can see justifies the short mag is the overall weight of the rifle. I don't know if saving toting two extra pounds is worth the butt kicking recoil you're gonna get with the short mags. Of course I don't think I'll ever get to go moose hunting in the rockies or such and if I could afford to run with a crowd who could, well, I might just have to get one to save face.

RE: im so sick of the short magnum hype
 

I'm sick of it too!! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>