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Junk Savage at 100 yards. 5 shot groups.

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Sure I will comment again. You called out Savage owners bragging about your rifle, arrogantly suggesting they couldnt shoot as good as you.

Then you ended up looking foolish when their posts starting rolling in. Out-of-the-box vs your rifle with upgrades and you ended up with egg on your face. Your right about one thing though, theres a whole lot more to do then writing posts on HNI. Thats why I wont waste any more of my time with yours.

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LMFAO!!!:DIt doesn't matter with this guy Scott! It doesn't matter about egg in his face, or looking foolish,tomorrow hiswill be right back saying stupid kid chit in his own personal little war against Savage lovers!

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Wow... A 5 page already.

As far as my older Savage 110 in .308 - I LOVE IT! :D Back when I got a new Bushnell 3-9x40 scope mounted and boresighted, I hooked up with a buddy of mine with a solid bench rest to fine tune it. I couldn't believe the groups it got!

Savage rifles... Federal Cartridges... They are made for each other.

I don't have a scanned image of my target, but, I will say that at 100 yards, my Savage 110, locked into a bench rest, made sub-MOA groups, using Federal American Eagle 150gr rounds.

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Butch for factory ammo I've always preferred Federal. Good stuff!

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X2

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$40 Fan

Outstanding groups!!! What caliber?

firstshot
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Make your first shot count!

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Who's "Anti Remington." Certainly not me, and I doubt most of the others who like their Savage rifles are against the ownership (which is what the prefix "anti" means, BTW), but rather we/they are PRO-Savage. I've said many times that Remington makes a decent rifle that will deliver accuracy suitable for most big game applications, as does Savage. What you fail to realize is that many of us simply don't have the time and/or money to drop a bunch of mods into a factory rifle to make it shoot good. Because of this the Savage is a better value if one has no intention or desire to make custom modifications to the rifle.

The rifle you use as an example is hardly stock "out-of-the-box." Not even close. The turning back the barrel and rechambering, and restocking with a full bedding job are what I'd consider major custom modifications. Lapping the lugs is a moderate modification. Precision handloading is also a major investment of time and money. This is work that most guys, including myself with the exception of handloading which I really don't have time to do anymore, but am well capable of, are not comfortable doing on their own for a variety of reasons, and how much would a competent gunsmith charge for said work? I'm betting you'd have almost as much into the parts and labor as the rifle was originally purchased for, all to shoot maybe 1/10" smaller groups than the bone stock Savage. If it's worth it to you to spend the time and money to achieve such paltry results, more power to you. But since I don't have a money tree in my back yard, I'll take my MUCH cheaper and very accurate Savage, and use the money I save to pay for the gas, food and beer so I can hunt in Minnesota this year with my brother. The deer will be just as dead if I shoot it with my rifle as it would be if you shot it with yours (provided that you can shoot when you don't have a bench and bags, that is), and the money I didn't have to spend to get my rifle to shoot well will afford me a few days of quality time with my brother who I'm lucky to see but once a year, and I'll finally get to meet my newest niece.

Sure you can. I don't recall anyone saying you can't. But sometimes Rems display spotty OOB accuracy, and need considerable work to bring out their considerable potential. ALL the Savages I've owned have shot very well with no modding what-so-ever.

Don't we all just love disparaging blanket statements?! You've whipped out the "If you don't like what I like, or think like I think, then you must be an idiot" argument. How very idiotic of you.

Mike

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Too funny how little it takes to twist up the Savage Queens...

Rollin'..........

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Great retort. :eek:Seriously, why didn't you attack any of driftrider's statements?

Hey, if you're happy with your Remington then why slam other companies???? [&:]Remington and Savage both make nice firearms and it doesn't have to be one or the other.

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Rifle Loonyyou’re an idiot. Stop with the controversy. It's just showing how juvenile you are. I shoot Remington rifles. I have also shot Savages, nothing wrong with them. You just like starting crap to see how far it will go.

As far as 'out of the box' My Remington shot a .30" group the first4 pulls of the trigger. (Well actually 2nd,3rd,4th) The first one hit the target stand. Bad bore site. That is the God honest truth. Since I have had the trigger adjusted to 3.5 lbs. The groups are usually around .25" @ 100 yds.


Bottom line-----------------Remington and Savage are excellent shooters. And to say one company is better than the other is stupid. Some people have personal preference. Just that preference!

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I hate you AND your girlfriend! [8D]

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What is it about the trigger? I know the rifles I used at work had trigger jobs done, but my personal firearms all have stock triggers on them. There is very little discernible difference in the end result on the target. The stock ones don't feel as nice, but other than that...

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...Wow..........

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I wasn't going to post on this thread, but this is something I can contribute to.

Having a finely tuned trigger definately takes alot of the "work" out of shooting good groups for me. Everyone has their preferences, mine is a finely tuned trigger in the 2.5-2.75# range. I can shoot very good groups with a stock trigger, but it also requires alot more effort for me to do so. For a hunting rifle a trigger job is'nt necessary, but for guys who punch alot of paper and do alot of load development it takes alot of human error out of the equation.

As for the Remington/Savage debate. Compare a Remington 700 SPS to any of the equal priced Savages, and see what gun has better fit/finish/trigger. ;)

I used to be "anti-Savage" then I bought one after all the hype I've heard on here. One thing i will say, it didn't take any work to shoot some very small groups with it. Then again, all my other guns shoot very small groups.

To each his own, end of debate.

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Rifle Loony, I own3 center fireRemingtons and zero Savages. A stainless .338 RUM in an HSPrecision stockthat will shoot .8", a 30-06 synthetic ADLthat will shoot .75, and a .243 ADL that will shoot .5"..... all with factory ammo and nothing more than trigger jobs done to them.

But your thread is seriously laughable. If you are going to make a statment like you did with this thread then don't insultour intelligence andat least do us allthecourtesy of comparing an OTB Remington to an OTB Savage or any other rifle(s) that you want to compare.




Then it isn't bone stock is it? Lapping the lugs properly can, all by itself, greatly improve accuracy by increasing hte contact patch between the lugs and receiver.

Again, not bone stock.A modified stock trigger at the least.

Whichforced your gunsmith tocompletelycut a brand new chamber inyour barrel, true theface of the receiver and the barrels torque shoulderand perfectly set headspace and hand polish the chamber which is a far cry from a production chamber.

Now you are just trying to blow smoke up every ones butts. Not even close!

Again a far cry from factory wood or plastic which isn't bedded at all. We all know how much accuracy can be improved upon by simply bedding a factory stock much less a $300+ Mc Millan.

Are you serious? Brother, by the time you placed the scope and rings on the gun you were so far from factory it isn't funny.

Well IF you had a factory Remington assembly, which, by no strech of the imagination do you have.

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I ownfour 700's, and one Savage. I like them all. I'm not a Savage nut, but I like the one I got and would not sell it right now. I really like my accu trigger. I'm more of a Remington fan, and I still think this post is very silly. To say my gun is better than yours reminds, me of a bunch of kids, but it is very entertaining! Please keep up your foolishness riflelooney!

Notice the four Remington 700's, and the Remington 870 slug gun. Only one Savage, in .223,it's a shooter! I'm happy with all my rifles.:D

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What's silly is, I post a picture and a couple of follow ups, and it generates 6 pages of driveling nonsense in defense of the worst rifle design on the planet.

People crack me up........

What's disturbing is, I post that picture elsewhere on the www and folks just want to talk ballistics and gear.

This should be good for a couple more pages, at least................

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Wow is right. Triggers, custom barrels and handloads don't mean a lot to BT. He seems to be able to shoot anything he puts his gorilla hands on. I have never seen anything like it. I've known the guy over 20 years, and he is the best natural shooter I have ever seen, and I have seen a few. So take what he says with a grain of salt. Most of us, myself included, have to work at it.

As for the whole Rem. vs. Savage thing, all I know is what I have seen, and there doesn't seem to be much difference. When I ordered my Robar, the guy there told me they prefer to use Remington actions because it's what they are used to setting up. He said it is no more effort to work a Savage action than a Remington. They have a 1/2 MOA guarantee, and they mean it.

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TROLL. [:'(]

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Increase the dosage to more therapeutic level.

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It's got to be everyone else on here! No way it could have anything to do with YOU!!!!:eek:JEEZ, what a chit stirring TROLL!!!!

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At least he admitted to being an inflammatory troll, not like he appeared to be otherwise:D