Question about accurizing my Ruger.
 

I asked the owner of one of the local gun shops about getting some triger work and bedding my Ruger today. He told me to put in an aftermarket trigger that I figured. What I haven't heard before was when I asked him about bedding the action for me, he said that Ruger's had three lugs in the action and didn't need to be bedded. He told me to tighten them down one at a time a half pound at a time until I had each tightened to four pounds of torque each. He said that over tightening them will bind the action and cause a lack of accuracy. I am no gunsmith or guru just tryingn to learn a few tricks of the trade, so what do you guys thing of this. The rifle has a synthetic stock.

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First is this a tang safety or a 3-position???

With my tang safety, I did a trigger job before it came home...Pillar bedded after about 15 years...After 20 years or so even put a 24 inch Shilen barrel in her...

There are 3 screws that you remove to take off the barrel...
The front screw, tighten first and it should be tighten good and snug with a larger screwdriver...The second (in front of trigger guard) you tighten less than the front and the one in the rear of the trigger guard less than the second...It sounds strange, but I have taken mine down several times for a good cleaning and have never torqued a gun screw...

I grew up as a mechanic and just tighten until I know it's right...

What I would question about tightening all 3 screws the same...Why is the front screw so much bigger than the rear two??

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Its a 3 position saftey.

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Three Lugs in the action????????????????????????????????????????

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.......I think I see the BS flag coming out.......

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I would take the gun to someone else to make that assesment. It has 1 angled recoil lug which can be a PITA to glassbedunless you know what your doing..

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That's what he said. He could do it it was just a hassle and that it wasn't really needed.

He told me that a trigger job and floating the barrel is all that I needed to make a sub-moa rifle out of it. The shooter may be another story. lol

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NC when you bedded it what kind of difference did you see?

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In two words, not much...

Now, mine has a wooden stock...I also free floated the barrel...I got caught in a rain storm one day and the gun got soaked...I pulled the barrel and letthe stockdry for a few days and the point of impact had changed...That's when I free floated the barrel and had it pillar bedded...

I wanted to try different factory ammo...That was the reason that I had a new barrel put in it a few years later, but the gun was about 20 years old at the time and I do shoot much more than most guys...The dang gun just loves CoreLokts, it liked them before the work and still likes them...After killing several deer with about 10 different factory ammo bullets I found that the CoreLokts work as well as any so that's what I stuck with...

With your's being a synthetic stock, this shouldn't be a problem...

My brother also has a .270, tang safety, wood stock as well...I do his work on his guns...I gave it a good cleaning and adjusted the trigger myself, it shoots good with the Federal Premium 130gr Sierra GameKings...I never free floated his...

I like a trigger about 2 1/2 - 3 pounds...I have heard the 3 position safety models can be adjusted by a good gunsmith and have had others say, just drop in a Timney and be done with it...

I'm not sure of the quality of the Ruger synthetic stocks...You might consider putting a McMillan or other higher quality stock with the aluminum bedding in it....

How well does the gun shoot now?? Have you tried several different brands of ammo???

We all want guns that will put every bullet into a dime at 100 yards, but frankly a 1 1/2 inch group at 100 with the right factory ammo will kill deer all day long...You can spend a bunch of money trying to shave off a half of an inch from a group...I know, I sure did...:D

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I am enjoying my new hobby of gaining better accuracy. I shoot about 2" groups right now with Hornady 140 spbt. Last month I got some new reloading equipment but I also moved into a new house and haven't gotten around to building a bench to set up on. I am going to shoot the 130 gmekings if my rifle likes them.

I am going to drop in a rifle basix trigger and set it at 3#.

The sythetic stock seems pretty good and fits great so I am going to try and keep it.

I know 2'' will hunt and kill deer I have killed a few with this rifle I just want the best I can get out of it.

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I recently had to glass bed my 270WSM. Mainly out of necessity. I switched to a Boyd's JRS Classic and the tang had extra space that was allowing the action to shift. When it was in the synthetic stock it was rock solid. If your planning on keeping the synthetic I would suggest doing the trigger first and see what that does for you. on mine prior to replacing the trigger I was getting 1" groups with the factory lawyer trigger. I installed the rifle basix at the same time I did the stock so I couldn't really get a gauge on the effect of the trigger alone. BTW be ready to do some filing on the safety to allow proper alignment and function. The instructions with the trigger will show you where you may need to take some material off. You will not be sorry dropping that pull weight down to 3lb's.

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I have never had one that didn't shoot very well and only one was glassbedded and that was because it went into an HS stock. I took it out of the boat paddle stock and bedded it into that stock. It worked well too but shot no better then other 77's both tang and wing safety models.

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Ruger,

I understand the desire to tweak your rifles accuracy, even though it may not be that necessary from a strictly hunting point of view. I have an inline muzzleloader that out of the box shot around 3" at 100 yards. It was good enough to kill deer, and I did take deer with it. But I wasn't satisfied with the accuracy, so I started playing around with it.

First I free-floated the barrel, then I glass-bedded the action. I also got some different varieties of bullets, powders and primers to experiment. Now the rifle shoots 1.5" at 100 yards with several different types of bullets, and my best 3-shot groups have been right around 1".

I'll tell you, it was a lot of fun doing it, and I feel that it was 100% worth it. I did all the work myself, so I spent very little money, just a fair amount of time. I would recommend working on your rifle - it is very rewarding and fun, plus you'll have a better-shooting rifle.

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.............just for the record....I think OEH and I are on the same plane... I've bedded a few Rugers in my time.... Never had to deal with more than one recoil lug per gun. Better ask your 'smith just how many multiple lug Rugers he's done.....and if you could see how he's done it....?????

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The whole three recoil lugs thing was my mistake from misunderstanding him. He was talking about the three screws attaching the action to the stock.

I've been doing some reading on other sights and I think I am going to replace the trigger and see how much that helps. Then float the barrel and only if I still need more accuracy will I look at bedding it.

I haven't heard anything about this guys 4#s of torque theory but several said the do it like nchawkeye, getting the recoil lug snug but not overly tight, then putting in the action screws slightly less snug. That plus some new handloads should get me where I want to be.

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Ruger M77.270 I know where you're coming from wanting better accuracy. The Ruger will never be a target rifle.Its a good hunting rifle and more then accurate enoughfor hunting. I have a dozen or so of the M-77's. None of them have been tack drivers.I have some that's never been fired but the ones thathave been, shot well enough for my needs.You can spend the money for a drop in trigger if you choose. A friend of mine who just died last month did allot of my Ruger's triggers.They break just under 3 lbs and are a great trigger if someone knows what they are doing.I get about 1.5" groups and I'm satisfied with that . If I wanted a target rifle I would have bought one.I wanteda hunting rifle and I can't ask for more.All mine except oneare the MKII's and most are the All Weather.My tang safety one is a M-77V in 25-06 that's NIB.

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Well I floated the barrel and brought the trigger down to 3.5lbs figured out what order to tighted my action screws in and how much and took it out to shoot this week. It shot some of my handloads MOA and put one in at .690. I think I'll let it sit till deer season is over. I am really happy with my rifle now so I guess its time to get a new one and start over. 300 weatherby sounds like fun.