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NITEHAWKJS 03-07-2009 07:00 AM

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Colorado: I totally agree with you on being careful and I myself would have no problem with providing references to anyone. I guess I was looking at this from the new member side of it of sort of being guilty till proven innocent view. I would never try to rip off a fellow sportsman. It’s just a shame that there are some that would and not think twice about doing it. But I do see where you guys have legitimate concerns.

cowboy4513 03-07-2009 12:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: NITEHAWKJS


ORIGINAL: cowboy4513

Sorry ti all turned out that way bro. I have bought and sold dozens of rifles, bows, archery gear etc etc never had a problem on this site... well one is kind of becoming apparent now but should have known with dealing with a new member... I have only had one bad expericence and guy didnt even buy from me! :D:);)HAHA that was a good one.
Cowboy I may be misreading this or reading more into it if so I’ll apologize now but I’m getting that all new members are not to be trusted or are under suspicion until we have so many posts under our belt. I know there are people out there that are out to rip people off but not everyone that is a new member is out to do this. And I’m guessing that at one time that you were even a new member?
No disrespect to new members... but I did mean you need to be carful with new members with low post counts who are selling items. I have purchased things from guys on here with 1-5 posts with no problem... but when there is a problem it genreally comes from members with low post counts. Im not saying. Im just saying:eek:

24wayne 03-07-2009 05:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: DoctorDeath

Wayne I talked with Scott Wednesday night and according to him you HAVE now received the die's ...is that right?

dd
I have received NOTHING from Scott. No dies, no phone call, no email, and no refund. If I had received anything, as I have said before, I would be man enough to have posted the arrival of anything. I HAVE NEVER RECEIVED THE DIES OR A REFUND FROM SCOTT.

DD you seem to get more information that I do. LOL The last time he told you he had sent me a refund via registered mail so it could be tracked. Hmmmm, what happened to that?? That was eight months ago...talk about snail mail....it still hasn't arrived...imagine that.

Again, as I said so many times in the past, he received my money order (previously posted here), cashed it, and kept the money. I did not get what I paid for and obviously never will. It isn't the money, it's the integrity of the whole thing. Scott's dishonest, period.

What I find humorous in the whole thing is that Scott can discuss this with other members but not me....too funny.

Wayne

DoctorDeath 03-08-2009 04:56 AM

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ORIGINAL: 24wayne


ORIGINAL: DoctorDeath

Wayne I talked with Scott Wednesday night and according to him you HAVE now received the die's ...is that right?

dd
I have received NOTHING from Scott. No dies, no phone call, no email, and no refund. If I had received anything, as I have said before, I would be man enough to have posted the arrival of anything. I HAVE NEVER RECEIVED THE DIES OR A REFUND FROM SCOTT.

DD you seem to get more information that I do. LOL The last time he told you he had sent me a refund via registered mail so it could be tracked. Hmmmm, what happened to that?? That was eight months ago...talk about snail mail....it still hasn't arrived...imagine that.

Again, as I said so many times in the past, he received my money order (previously posted here), cashed it, and kept the money. I did not get what I paid for and obviously never will. It isn't the money, it's the integrity of the whole thing. Scott's dishonest, period.

What I find humorous in the whole thing is that Scott can discuss this with other members but not me....too funny.

Wayne
Guy's I can't vouch for Scotts character all I can tell you is that I have had two or three deals with him that involved several hundred dollars (me selling to HIM so he had to send me the money BEFORE I sent the item)and he has always fullfilled his end of the deal ..I would not say he and I are "friends" because we have never met but he is on AOL and so am I and occationally we chat via IMs ...I just flat out asked him the other night what had ever become of this transaction and he told me he did wind up sending the dies ...now either he did or he didnt ...the perplexing thing about THIS deal is WHY would EITHER lie about something that involves only $40.00 ...does not add upto me ..Scott has been on this web site for years buying and selling (under a different user ID ..thats how I met him) and to cheat someone on anything much less a set of $40.00 dies is BAD business and he is smart enough to know that I think ...on the other hand you have a guy like Wayne who has been a member here for just a short time but his story rings true to me because it would seem he has nothing to gain by making false accusations .... either way its just not a good situation and I hate to see it happen on here.

dd

cowboy4513 03-08-2009 07:03 AM

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DD you make ALOT of sense Your right its only $40 one of the two guys is full of it and i belive wayne Just based on he is still posting and keeping us updated and the other guy (forget his Screen name) but he hasnt posted in some time defending himself. just my .02.

tess31470 03-09-2009 03:39 AM

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to cowboys message ,, i have replyed on here to defend my self and all eny 1 gets back is a bunch of crap from people with smart ass attudes i have done plenty of deals on here and had people defend me that i have done numeres deals with and i thank them i wish it would of never started itnot worth 40 dollors for all this mess bu right is right and rong is rong im not giveing him enymore im done i did my part thanks for your time give it up

24wayne 03-09-2009 11:57 AM

RE: BAD TRADER WARNING
 

ORIGINAL: tess31470

to cowboys message ,, i have replyed on here to defend my self and all eny 1 gets back is a bunch of crap from people with smart ass attudes i have done plenty of deals on here and had people defend me that i have done numeres deals with and i thank them i wish it would of never started itnot worth 40 dollors for all this mess bu right is right and rong is rong im not giveing him enymore im done i did my part thanks for your time give it up
Well, there is one thing I can agree with you on, right it right and wrong is wrong. What exactly are you not giving me? Exactly what part did you do other than cash the check and keep the money?

You never sent me the dies after cashing my bank issued cashiers check, you never sent me a refund, and you lied repeatedly when you told me that you were going to contact me with tracking information. Yes, right is right and wrong is wrong. What you did was wrong.

Your first story to me was that you sent the dies to the wrong person and had to get them back. Then your story on this board was you sent them to me with "extra" in them yet I still didn't get them. Then your story, according to DD during this thread, was that you were sending me a refund via registered mail with tracking information and I never received a thing nor was any tracking information ever provided. If you sent me a refund via registered mail I would gladly track it for you. You then told DD recently that you had sent me the dies. When? I have never received a thing from you. No refund, no dies, and no communication. Yup, right is right and wrong is wrong. What you did was wrong. Somehow though, you manage to discuss this situation with DD but yet cannot be bothered to email me, call me, pm me, or send me a refund or the dies.

When you tell people "give it up" it is you that should just give up the stories and dishonesty. I posted here to let other people know to be wary when dealing with you. Your first initial response to me was callous, rude, and completely outrageous for someone that wants to positively deal with people and sell items that, according to you previously, are worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. Your remarks here further show your rudeness and that alone would definitely seal the deal on me never buying anything from someone with that attitude. If the attitude is poor usually the dealings are too in my experience.

By the way, the check that I sent to you was for $30 and not $40 and you reaped the profit in its entirety. If you are feeling that you are in a mess it is a mess of your own creation. The money you took from me provided a valuable lesson in dealing on line and hopefully others will also take away some caution from this as well. It's about integrity and honesty Scott. Period. This is easily rectified in my opinion...stand up, be a man, admit that you never sent the dies or a refund. I've heard story after story from you yet nothing that you have told me has been true. Believe me, it was obvious to me after your first post that nothing would ever arrive. I just hope you have learned something about being an honest seller and that when you take advantage of people they will stand up and say something.

Buyers beware...with anyone.

Wayne



glockman55 03-09-2009 03:38 PM

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What A Looser..Thanks for the Warning.

tess31470 03-09-2009 03:38 PM

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thats exactly what you said before and i have stuck to my side nothing is going to change my mind keep on saying what you want you have that rigt to do that but opions are like asses everyone has 1 and they all stink have a great day and as far a doctor death he just gave his opion on this he has outright ask me and i told him my side he is not takeing sides he did tell me if i didnt send them to send them and if i did he was sorry it is comeing out this way for me i will deal with him or eny body else who want to on here every one can belive what they want i will sleep tonight but ill bet ther will be more post on here thats what you said you were going to do so do what you wish thank for your time and trouble everyone on here and just like old crip he called me four ever and was as frendly as could be then out of the blue started runing his head on here after months of nothing from him that shows you how some people are 2 faced thanks everyone on here who has bough from me or sold to me for you messeges good or bad and mr.dd respects to you just hereing both sides and everone who has spoke about it se ya

Colorado Luckydog 03-09-2009 08:50 PM

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I wonder who is telling the truth? :eek:

Wayne, I know it sucks you lost the 30 dollars but we all learned from it. 30 bucks for us all to learn a very valuble lesson is cheap, you just paid forall of us! I'm glad you took the time to let us all know what happened. Thanks!




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