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Dave105 05-25-2008 12:14 PM

243 win.
 
remington 770 243 win.is this a good gun for deer?

TexasBowHunter 05-25-2008 12:25 PM

RE: 243 win.
 
243 is fine for deer, my daughter took her first deer last year with my wife's 243....Good little round

RugerM77.270 05-25-2008 04:06 PM

RE: 243 win.
 
The .243 win. is a great deer round. The 770 though is questionable.

Swampdog 05-25-2008 07:12 PM

RE: 243 win.
 

ORIGINAL: RugerM77.270

The .243 win. is a great deer round. The 770 though is questionable.

Must agree withRuger .The .243 is hard to beat at just about anything.The 770 I Don't know.

Rammer 05-25-2008 07:56 PM

RE: 243 win.
 
I'd avoid the 770, its pretty much a 710 in disguise....The 243 is a great deer round.

JagMagMan 05-25-2008 08:33 PM

RE: 243 win.
 
Any deer, anywhere, the .243/6MM is an excellent minimum caliber!

thndrchiken 05-25-2008 08:58 PM

RE: 243 win.
 
The 243 is a great round that will do the job on deer. The 770 is the revised 710. I'd stay away from it.

James B 05-25-2008 08:59 PM

RE: 243 win.
 
[:'(]

Rammer 05-25-2008 09:04 PM

RE: 243 win.
 
I was waiting for JamesB to chime in here! :D

Maine Shooter 05-26-2008 06:08 AM

RE: 243 win.
 

ORIGINAL: thndrchiken

The 243 is a great round that will do the job on deer. The 770 is the revised 710. I'd stay away from it.
I agree on both things. As a back up to a backup the 770 mght be considered but otherwise... If you're serious about buying a decent rifle don't bother with the 770 (or 710). I know, I know...it's affordable. Well, you get what you pay for is verrry true in thiscase. Maybe look at the Savage line.

bugsNbows 05-26-2008 06:59 AM

RE: 243 win.
 
Savage = a good choice, IMO. Another option I'd check out is the new Marlin XL7. I don't think it's available in a .243 though (probably a 25-06 would be a decent substitute). This new Marlin should be able to be had for about $325.

8mm/06 05-26-2008 03:54 PM

RE: 243 win.
 
.243 with factory 100 grain ammo is a very good deer rifle. Just find the ammo that is most accurate and make good shots, as always.

ox1443 05-26-2008 05:23 PM

RE: 243 win.
 
Perfect deer round...If you were rich i would use it for gophers and Beaver hahahah:D

8mm/06 05-27-2008 09:34 PM

RE: 243 win.
 
I wouldn't cal it perfect, but definitely acceptable and up to the task, in most whitetail situations. Not necessarily my first pick if I know i was on the hunt for a particular anilmal of very large proportions. I know whitetails are not supposed to be particularly difficult to kill. But if I knew I was possibly going to meet up with a deer that seemed to tip the scales at over 260 lbs live weight I might opt for slightly more gun.

CommonSense 05-28-2008 12:17 AM

RE: 243 win.
 
The .243 is a dang fine cartridge for deer hunting, but like others have mentioned, the 770 is questionable

zrexpilot 05-28-2008 09:31 AM

RE: 243 win.
 

ORIGINAL: 8mm/06

I wouldn't call it perfect,

I would. :D

seriously, it has little to no recoil, is dead nuts accurate, super flat shooting, great sectional density, great coeficiency, leavesbig holes in deer. What more do you want.


ipscshooter 05-28-2008 10:00 AM

RE: 243 win.
 

ORIGINAL: zrexpilot


ORIGINAL: 8mm/06

I wouldn't call it perfect,

I would. :D

seriously, it has little to no recoil, is dead nuts accurate, super flat shooting, great sectional density, great coeficiency, leavesbig holes in deer. What more do you want.

More noise? A sore shoulder after a day at the range? A nice big flinch? Shooting with your eyes closed IS highly underrated, you know...:D

Seriously, on Texas Hill Country deer, my .243 performs just as well as my now retired .30-06....

zophy 05-28-2008 12:53 PM

RE: 243 win.
 
Is the 243 good for hog hunting?

zrexpilot 05-28-2008 01:59 PM

RE: 243 win.
 

ORIGINAL: zophy

Is the 243 good for hog hunting?













Why yes, it is. hehehe.







zrexpilot 05-28-2008 02:02 PM

RE: 243 win.
 

ORIGINAL: ipscshooter

More noise? A sore shoulder after a day at the range? A nice big flinch? Shooting with your eyes closed IS highly underrated, you know...:D

Seriously, on Texas Hill Country deer, my .243 performs just as well as my now retired .30-06....

Actually, I think it's still a little big for hill country deer. Hit them in the shoulder and it will be totally ruined. Behind the shouler and it will save a lot of meat.

Paul L Mohr 05-28-2008 02:04 PM

RE: 243 win.
 

ORIGINAL: zophy

Is the 243 good for hog hunting?
That's what I bought mine for. The .243 makes a real nice dual purpose rifle. It will work for deer sized game, medium sized game and varmints depending on what loads you use. And they make all kinds. There are probably better guns for each purpose but the .243 really shines on deer sized game down to large varmints like woodchucks. If you were going to go for a varmint only gun a .223 or a 22-250 might be a better choice but the .243 with a 55-80 grn bullet is pretty flat and powerful for varmint/predator hunting.

I would also shy away from the cheap remington. I have never owned one but I did look at a few and wasn't that impressed for the money. You would be better off with a used gun of better quality. Or a Stevens or Mossberg, they are built pretty well and you can get them for $300- $400. The Howa are pretty nice as well if you want to up the price a hundred or so. I have never heard a bad review of any of those three.

Here is a pic of my savage .243 with a 16X Mueller scope.



Paul

Paul L Mohr 05-28-2008 02:07 PM

RE: 243 win.
 
I'm sorry, I thought that said GROUND HOG hunting. I guess I've got woodchucks on the brain:D. Still, the .243 should work great for hogs as well, just use a heavier tougher bullet that will penetrate better is all.

Paul

8mm/06 05-28-2008 02:16 PM

RE: 243 win.
 

ORIGINAL: zrexpilot


ORIGINAL: 8mm/06

I wouldn't call it perfect,

I would. :D

seriously, it has little to no recoil, is dead nuts accurate, super flat shooting, great sectional density, great coeficiency, leavesbig holes in deer. What more do you want.

I agree with all of the points of the .243. Own a little beauty built on a Mauser 98. It is a shooter and extolls all that you have said. Still, on my largest deer to date (which only went 16 yards after being struck by the 100 grain handload!) the bullet killed the deer but blew up completely. I know that the bullet selection was a little suspect, but for that reason I developed a hesitation when targeting really large animals. When I have a bubba on my plan (not too often I might add)I usually carry my 6.5 X 55 with 140 gr pills or my 30/06 with 165 pills.
I know the 243 only lags behind a little bit, and is better on trajectory, but my shots are generally under 100 yards, so that part is a moot point.

cjwink 05-28-2008 02:36 PM

RE: 243 win.
 
243 is a great deer round.. You won't need anything more..

Colorado Luckydog 05-28-2008 02:45 PM

RE: 243 win.
 
I have known of several people that have taken elk with a .243. I wouldn't use mine for elk, but I know it's been done. I can't think of any finer deer roundthat's out there. I have been using a .270 for deer but this year I'm using my new Rem 700 .243 in bdl!!

nchawkeye 05-28-2008 03:19 PM

RE: 243 win.
 
Bullet blow up is more of a function of the selection of the bullet for the job...It's not caliber specific...I've seen .270 and 30-06 bullets blow up on close range whitetails as well...

They didn't go far either...:D

I'd still rather have one "blow up" occasionally on close range deer with them falling a few yards away than a heavy for caliber, hard bullet that does little expansion and internal damage and a slow, tedious tracking job and the deer falling 100-150 yards away...

Of course, that's why they make Chevys and Fords...:D

Doe Dumper 05-28-2008 04:08 PM

RE: 243 win.
 
Like Hawk says....bullets blowing up or being called failures is really a misnomer if the deer or whatever you are shooting at is dead. The only true "failure" I have had which means a hit deer and a non recovered deer remains the 165 BT from a 30-06 in the early more fragile version of that bullet. The 85 gr NPT's have piqued my curiosity for the 243. Cant wait to load some and see if they group...

Rifle Loony 05-28-2008 05:33 PM

RE: 243 win.
 
The .243 with an 85 gr TSX on deeris Skookum...

The .243AI with an 85 gr TSX on deer......is Skookum +P.



spikebuck77 05-30-2008 07:04 AM

RE: 243 win.
 
The .243 Win makes a good deer round for young hunters or lady shooters who might be recoil sensitive. While it does have enough energy to make a clean kill, a 30 caliber round like a .308 or 30-06 will perform better in more circumstancesover the years.

cjwink 05-30-2008 07:37 AM

RE: 243 win.
 

ORIGINAL: spikebuck77

The .243 Win makes a good deer round for young hunters or lady shooters who might be recoil sensitive. While it does have enough energy to make a clean kill, a 30 caliber round like a .308 or 30-06 will perform better in more circumstancesover the years.
A 243 will kill a deer just as dead with either a Man, Woman or child behind the trigger. In fact the 243 using the85 BTHPbullet will have more speed, less drop and aboutthe sameEFP than many of the 308 150 grain bullets out past about 350 yards. I am not sure what "more circumstances" are but to me the 243 is a better "deer round" than the 308. That is not a knock to the 308, cause I love the 308.. Just for bigger sized game..

ipscshooter 05-30-2008 07:43 AM

RE: 243 win.
 

ORIGINAL: spikebuck77

The .243 Win makes a good deer round for young hunters or lady shooters who might be recoil sensitive. While it does have enough energy to make a clean kill, a 30 caliber round like a .308 or 30-06 will perform better in more circumstancesover the years.
It's always amusing when somebody comes on here and makes a statement like that. There are guys on here who have taken hundreds of deer with the .243. Yet there's always some uninformed rookie who wants to say "it makes a nice rifle for women and children..." I switched from .30-06 to .243 a few years back, and have found that the deer don't travel any further after the shot with the .243 than they did with the .30-06. In fact, I've had more DRT's with the .243...

ipscshooter 05-30-2008 07:50 AM

RE: 243 win.
 

ORIGINAL: zrexpilot


ORIGINAL: ipscshooter

More noise? A sore shoulder after a day at the range? A nice big flinch? Shooting with your eyes closed IS highly underrated, you know...:D

Seriously, on Texas Hill Country deer, my .243 performs just as well as my now retired .30-06....
Actually, I think it's still a little big for hill country deer. Hit them in the shoulder and it will be totally ruined. Behind the shouler and it will save a lot of meat.
Yeah, I usually go behind the shoulder for that very reason. This fall I won't be using the .243. I'm taking steps in both directions... I'm going to take a doe or two with my AR15 .223. There was a huge brouhaha on here a while back about frangible ammo. I'm going to give the stuff a shakedown.

I'll also have a 7mm Rem Mag in the blind with me. I inherited it from a really good friend who died in a plan crash in Belize. It's been ten years since he passed, and his rifle hasn't been out of my safe except for an occasional wipedown with an oily rag... I picked up a couple boxes of Remington's 140 gr. managed recoil rounds, and if a nice buck happens by, my buddy's rifle will get the shot. Next year, I'll be back at it with the .243...

nchawkeye 05-30-2008 08:08 AM

RE: 243 win.
 

ORIGINAL: spikebuck77

The .243 Win makes a good deer round for young hunters or lady shooters who might be recoil sensitive. While it does have enough energy to make a clean kill, a 30 caliber round like a .308 or 30-06 will perform better in more circumstancesover the years.
I call BS on that...I ain't young, a lady, or recoil sensitive...I have killed over 150 deer with a .243 that I have had since 1980....

I've also had 5 buddies switch from an '06 to a .243, they find it works just fine...

How many deer have you killed with a .243???:D:D:D

Rammer 05-30-2008 08:39 AM

RE: 243 win.
 

ORIGINAL: spikebuck77

The .243 Win makes a good deer round for young hunters or lady shooters who might be recoil sensitive. While it does have enough energy to make a clean kill, a 30 caliber round like a .308 or 30-06 will perform better in more circumstancesover the years.
I just checked, I ain't young, and I'm definately not a lady. :D

And I also have a 308 and a 30-06 haven't shot either one in years. ;)

Rifle Loony 05-30-2008 10:06 AM

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Am 6'4" and weigh 258, and can dig a fast handling, flat shooting, light weightshort action for with to hunt much and hard...........

Knowing that value don't make you a sissy.............

zrexpilot 05-30-2008 10:19 AM

RE: 243 win.
 

ORIGINAL: ipscshooter

Yeah, I usually go behind the shoulder for that very reason. This fall I won't be using the .243. I'm taking steps in both directions... I'm going to take a doe or two with my AR15 .223. There was a huge brouhaha on here a while back about frangible ammo. I'm going to give the stuff a shakedown.

I'll also have a 7mm Rem Mag in the blind with me. I inherited it from a really good friend who died in a plan crash in Belize. It's been ten years since he passed, and his rifle hasn't been out of my safe except for an occasional wipedown with an oily rag... I picked up a couple boxes of Remington's 140 gr. managed recoil rounds, and if a nice buck happens by, my buddy's rifle will get the shot. Next year, I'll be back at it with the .243...
I remeber that thread, I held my tongue on that one. Tell us how the ammo works out, I am really curious about that stuff. The 7 mag is like the .243's big brother, They have a lot of the same characteristics, just on a bigger scale. I remember shooting a doe one year with the mag, I made a perfect behind the shoulder shot, deer went 30 yds and piled up, but the damage that thing left was amazing, the whole side of the deer from neck to ham was blood shot. That 7 packs a punch, just like the .243but more of it.
Anytime your down here in S.A. TX.and want to take a hog, shoot me a line. I have a place not 10 minutes from my house loaded with them.

ipscshooter 05-30-2008 11:46 AM

RE: 243 win.
 

ORIGINAL: zrexpilot

Anytime your down here in S.A. TX.and want to take a hog, shoot me a line. I have a place not 10 minutes from my house loaded with them.
Thanks zrex, I'll keep that in mind. This has been a banner day for me... Just got out of a meeting with a client a little while ago, and he invited me to his ranch in Karnes County, SE of S.A., next fall for a management buck hunt...

Swift Arrow 05-30-2008 06:31 PM

RE: 243 win.
 
Up to how many yards out can a .243 effectively take a deer without too much tracking?

nchawkeye 05-30-2008 07:10 PM

RE: 243 win.
 
I've dropped them out to 300 yards, no tracking...

zrexpilot 05-30-2008 09:00 PM

RE: 243 win.
 

ORIGINAL: Swift Arrow

Up to how many yards out can a .243 effectively take a deer without too much tracking?
farther than I can shoot.


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