Gun Purchasing Question
 

A friend of mine bought a collection of guns from an estate auction, and I'm going to buy a S&W .357 from his lot. My question is what kind of paperwork/registration do I need to complete in order to legally own this? I've never owned a gun before, so any info would help. I live in AZ if that's important.

Thanks.

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I don't know for sure about Arizona, but you are most likely going to have to go through a dealer for a handgun. A rifle you could probably do person to person with a reciept, but with a handgun it will need to be transfered I think. Which means both you and your buddy will need to find a dealer that will transfer it. I am sure they will charge you something, but I couldn't began to say how much. Under 50 bucks most likely, possibly half that if you have a good dealer.

Paul

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You'll need one these to carry it.....

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Sure glad I'm in Nevada private to private except Las Vegas metro is just a hand shake and trade .
Most of our sheriffs depts will gladly run S/Ns or (even suspect buyers case by case).
I thought Az. was open carry outsige the metros .

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Same here in WV.

I would call your local Sheriff and ask him. AZ laws may not take jurisdiction, you may have local laws. Tom.

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You don't need to do anything but pay the man and go home. Arizona does not have any kind of laws that require you to register any kind of firearm or any paperwork that needs to be filled out when two provate individuals conduct a firearms sale.

Having said this, depending on how good of a "buddy" this guy is, you might want to get a signed bill of sale for your records just in case he isn't as good of a buddy as you thought and reports the gun stolen or something.

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Thanks guys. I also made a call to the local police station to verify it. I'm getting the S & W .357 (chrome) for $350. It's really clean from what I saw. So now I guess my question is if that's a good deal.

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Back when I lived on Florida you didn't have to do anything. Face to face.Anytime I sold or bought a gun from an individual I would make a couple receipts out with the date/time,guns discription s/n etc.Exchange driver's licenses writing the numbers on each receipt.Bassically just to C.Y.A.
I would check what your state requires in such a transaction to be on the safe side..

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WHENEVER ANYONE HAS A QUESTION ABOUT THINGS LIKE WHAT THE LAWS ARE ABOUT GUNS IN ANY STATE OR TERRITORY, JUST ACCESS THE NRA-ILA WEBSITE AND CLICK ON THE STATE IN QUESTION!! JUST THE INFORMATION POSTED HERE IS WORTH THE COST OF NRA MEMBERSHIP, EVEN THOUGH THIS SERVICE IS FREE! ANY AMERICAN WHO OWNS A GUN SHOULD BE A N NRA MEMBER-THIS OUTFIT IS THE ONLY THING THAT STANDS BETWEEN US AND LOSING OUR RIGHTS, DURNBURNIT ALL ANYHOW!!

There is no permit or any other requirement for you to purchase & possess a firearm of any sort, including handguns, in Arizona as long as you have not been convicted of a felony, a domesic violence m9isdemeanor, and are not an otherwise ineligible "prohibited person". You don't need a permit to carry it either, as long as it is not concealed! However, there are places into which you may not enter if armed!

For further info, check out the laws on the NRA-ILA Arizona website.

http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/AZSL.pdf

Here's a small quote from the NRA posting for AZ: For more info, check it out yourself.

CARRYING
No person shall carry a firearm "concealed on his person." This does not apply to a person in his dwelling, business premises or on real property owned or leased by that person. A handgun carried in a belt holster which is wholly or partially visible or carried in luggage is not considered carrying concealed.
It is unlawful to carry a firearm concealed within the immediate control of any person in or on a means of transportation. This does not apply to firearms carried in a case, holster or scabbard in a means of transportation or a storage compartment, trunk, pack, luggage, or glove compartment of a means of transportation.
Exempt from these prohibitions are peace officers or any person summoned by a peace officer to assist and while actually assisting in the performance of official duties; on-duty military forces of the United States; a person specifically licensed, authorized or permitted pursuant to an Arizona or United States statute.

No person shall, unless specifically authorized by law, enter a public establishment or attend a public event carrying a firearm after a reasonable request by the operator of the establishment or the sponsor of the event to remove his firearm and place it in the custody of the operator or sponsor. This does not apply to shooting ranges or shooting events, hunting areas or similar locations or activities.

It is unlawful, unless specifically authorized by law, to enter an election polling place on the day of any election carrying a firearm.
It is unlawful to possess a deadly weapon on grade or high school grounds.

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I am NOT AWARE OF ANY STATE in which two private citizens who are both legal residents of that state have to use a dealer to transfer a handgun, NOT EVEN in the DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF NEW YORK! Hoever, in NY, BEFORE THE TRANSFER CN TAKE PLACE, THE SELLER MUST HAVE THE HANDGUN TAKEN OFF HIS PISTOL PERMIT, AND THE BUYER MUST HAVE IT RECORDED ON HIS/HER PISTOL PERMIT. This action has to be approved & signed off by the County Superior Court Judge, EXCEPT IN NYC, where this is done by theNYC Police Commissioner....(MAYBE!!)

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In MI you have to have a background check, obtain a license and register it with the local police department or sherriffs office. I have not purchased a handgun in MI simply becuase it's too big of pain in the ass to go about. I was told in my area some of this would have to be done at a gun shop, and they would probably charge you to do it.

I was thinking of having my dad get me one in Ohio then givie it to me as a gift. They said that wouldn't work becaue I would still have to go through all of it just to own one, doesn't matter if I buy it or recieve it as a gift. I was going to buy my girlfriend a .22 handgun to plink with but decided it just isn't worth the hassle. I bought her a bow instead;).

I thought about getting a concealed carry permit until I found out how much it costs and that you pretty much can't carry them anywhere anyway. It would spend most of the time locked in the trunk unless I wanted to carry it illegaly, and if I'm going to do that I might as well not bother with the permit.

Paul

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Their plan seems to be working in Michigan.:(

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Unfortunately your are correct Bigbulls. There is just nothing I need a handgun for that badly to go through that much BS to get one. I might do it in the future though because I am considering pistol hunting. But to just "have" a handgun it is not worth it in my opinion. I can get a .22 rifle for half the money and less hassle. Heck I can get a muzzle loader with no hassle at all.

Paul

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It's too bad the we have to deal with this non-sense. Good thing they just raised taxes in Michigan to keep up with the spending.

Tom

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That is incorrect...

When a private transfer takes place in the state of NY, the BUYER must first place the handgun on his permit BEFORE the seller is allowed to remove it fromtheir permit. The transaction simply will not take place if they do not know first where thepistol is going.This preventsthe situation of an unregistered handgun, should the buyer delay putting it on his permit. Private transfers aredone easiest with both parties present at the countypistol permit clerk. This not withstanding any local city ordinances that may apply...I wouldn't know about that.

Also,the only thing that is signed off by the County Judge is the actual issue of the CCW when you first apply for one. You only need one CCW and can have as many handguns on it as you wish.Future transfers from either private sellersor dealers are handled by the county pistol permit clerk oran officer/branch of the County Sheriffs Dept., depending on whatcountyit is.

Transfer from a dealer requires a "blue card", which is recieved from the permit clerk upon you giving her the pistol info. This "blue card" isso the dealer knows the pistol is now registered in your name and you then have permission to takepossession of the weapon, the "blue card" is the record the dealer keeps to prove the pistol is now offhis books.

NY, outside that gawd awful NYC, is really not that restrictive. Some smaller cities have local laws but that's nationwide anyway. The funny part is, in Upstate, most ruralLEO's WANT you to carry concealed if you carry...out of sight, out of mind, is what I've been told by a few Troopers.

Do I agree with any of this in principle...no.

Firearms registration should not exist anywhere, but it does, and the above is how itworks in the areas ofNY where I've registered handguns.