243 vs 30-06 (case scenario)
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Nontypical Buck
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243 vs 30-06 (case scenario)
Greetings
I've got a fishing buddy who is about 55 years old living here in WV. Really nice guy but has about as much "outdoor savy" as Jessica Simpson. He's got a small collection of firearms that he never shoots (mostly pistols, historical type MLs, and nice shotguns).
Anyway he wants to buy a decent deer rifle.
I am trying to steer him towards a tikka t3 in .243. In the best case scenario I expect he may wonder around a little property he has and shoot a doe or small buck. He's definately not "hard core" in the least, and should never take a shot more than 200 yds (more likely < 100)in any case, imo. The Cabelas salesman (on the phone) is trying to talk him into a .30-06 because it's more versatile. He doesn't know my buddy that well.
I myself have shot dozens and dozens of deer with my 6mm and know it's a killer. I've shot a couple with a .243 as well and have had friendswho use themfor years.I know this guy will never "graduate" to bigger game than whitetails. He occasionally has problems with his shoulder and I figure he will not have near the fun with that '06 as he will the.243.
My question is (after all that): Can anyone see an advantage for the '06 in this case???
I've got a fishing buddy who is about 55 years old living here in WV. Really nice guy but has about as much "outdoor savy" as Jessica Simpson. He's got a small collection of firearms that he never shoots (mostly pistols, historical type MLs, and nice shotguns).
Anyway he wants to buy a decent deer rifle.
I am trying to steer him towards a tikka t3 in .243. In the best case scenario I expect he may wonder around a little property he has and shoot a doe or small buck. He's definately not "hard core" in the least, and should never take a shot more than 200 yds (more likely < 100)in any case, imo. The Cabelas salesman (on the phone) is trying to talk him into a .30-06 because it's more versatile. He doesn't know my buddy that well.
I myself have shot dozens and dozens of deer with my 6mm and know it's a killer. I've shot a couple with a .243 as well and have had friendswho use themfor years.I know this guy will never "graduate" to bigger game than whitetails. He occasionally has problems with his shoulder and I figure he will not have near the fun with that '06 as he will the.243.
My question is (after all that): Can anyone see an advantage for the '06 in this case???
#2
RE: 243 for deer???
.243 is a good option, I'm picking one up for antelope and maybe deer.
For what you described one of the .308 versions is certainly the way to go I think. Though I think the 7mm-08 might be a better choice, more versatile than the .243 just in case, also under 200yds, youc ould shoot a heavier bullet, and while the .243 could do the job, on deer.....under 200 yds, I think the 7mm-08 would be better. and loading up to 160grs or so in the future say on a bear hunt or somethin gif that were to come would certrainly be better than a 100gr bullet, or on hogs perhaps?
For what you described one of the .308 versions is certainly the way to go I think. Though I think the 7mm-08 might be a better choice, more versatile than the .243 just in case, also under 200yds, youc ould shoot a heavier bullet, and while the .243 could do the job, on deer.....under 200 yds, I think the 7mm-08 would be better. and loading up to 160grs or so in the future say on a bear hunt or somethin gif that were to come would certrainly be better than a 100gr bullet, or on hogs perhaps?
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RE: 243 for deer???
The 7mm-08 is a good option the salukipiv, that I had not considered before, although I did also consider the .308.
Believe me, this guy will never shoot anything bigger or tougher than deer. I love him to death but would be REAL reluctant to even take him on any kind of serious hunt--even for deer.
I figured .243 would also be about the most economical as far as ammo. .308 is right there too but for some reason I like the .24 caliber in this situation.
Thanks guys
Believe me, this guy will never shoot anything bigger or tougher than deer. I love him to death but would be REAL reluctant to even take him on any kind of serious hunt--even for deer.
I figured .243 would also be about the most economical as far as ammo. .308 is right there too but for some reason I like the .24 caliber in this situation.
Thanks guys
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RE: 243 for deer???
What if he gets the "fever" and really gets hooked though? I have seen this happen before to people who were not big hunters until they started killing a few deer. I think a .30-06 or a .270 would be a better choice in the T-3 since all T-3's are long actions. My concern would be his shoulder problems with the 30-06 or .270, especially if he buys the T-3 Lite.
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Join Date: May 2008
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RE: 243 for deer???
7-08 is a nice compromise, reasonable recoil & good killing power. If he is not much of a hunter then he probably wont be much of a tracker - the 7-08 will penetrate & leave a blood trail, the .243 dosent always penetrate so no trail.
.270 or 30-06 for a guy with shoulder problems??? Enjoyable to shoot either calibre??? Give me a break!
.270 or 30-06 for a guy with shoulder problems??? Enjoyable to shoot either calibre??? Give me a break!
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RE: 243 for deer???
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What if he gets the "fever" and really gets hooked though? I have seen this happen before to people who were not big hunters until they started killing a few deer. I think a .30-06 or a .270 would be a better choice in the T-3 since all T-3's are long actions. My concern would be his shoulder problems with the 30-06 or .270, especially if he buys the T-3 Lite.
What if he gets the "fever" and really gets hooked though? I have seen this happen before to people who were not big hunters until they started killing a few deer. I think a .30-06 or a .270 would be a better choice in the T-3 since all T-3's are long actions. My concern would be his shoulder problems with the 30-06 or .270, especially if he buys the T-3 Lite.
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RE: 243 vs 30-06 (case scenario)
Can anyone see an advantage for the '06 in this case???
My dautghter-in-law kille her bull elk every year with her .243!
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RE: 243 vs 30-06 (case scenario)
".243 won't penetrate"?
.243 is fine for deer, especially if you're concerned about recoil. The .260, 7mm-08, and .308 might be worth considering too. I've used a .243 for years on whitetails, mule deer, and antelope. It's every bit as effective (sometimes I beleive MORE effective) than the .30-06s and .270s we also carry to the woods.
And yes, the .243 will produce a blood trail just like the other cartridges, I've never had to trail a deer hit with it veryfar, but yes, it DID penetrate.
.243 is fine for deer, especially if you're concerned about recoil. The .260, 7mm-08, and .308 might be worth considering too. I've used a .243 for years on whitetails, mule deer, and antelope. It's every bit as effective (sometimes I beleive MORE effective) than the .30-06s and .270s we also carry to the woods.
And yes, the .243 will produce a blood trail just like the other cartridges, I've never had to trail a deer hit with it veryfar, but yes, it DID penetrate.