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Wilds 05-02-2008 09:03 AM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 

ORIGINAL: hillbillyhunter1


ORIGINAL: Wilds


ORIGINAL: hillbillyhunter1


The fish, BTW, is a dink......................................
Probably the same thing that blonde said about your "barrel length";)

I'm sure tho',you're just trollin' for proof.

Not hardley. I'm sure your just confused because you and your hunting "pards" are used to frequenting "other-type" forums as opposed to actual hunting forums. Good luck with both;)
Would figure you to know all about man porn and where it's found on the web.....

Shhhh......

Do I hear banjo's playin'......?

Rammer 05-02-2008 09:10 AM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
What happened to our good forums here? We have an Arrogant A-Hole that moved in, that is a self-proclaimed GOD with firearms, and knows all. Not only is he a God in his own eyes, he is better than people because of what state they live in. Time for a troll to disappear! :D

Wilds 05-02-2008 09:16 AM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
Defending BT/DT with determination is not arrogance...

Extolling that which was developed NOT by me nor proven FIRST by me is not meacting like God of anything....

Dishin'back what is given is not trollin'...

You've a mouse with which to change the channel...talk barrel length or stay on the porch.

Makin' rifles shoot is easy, many can't see/know that, and frequently................

Wilds 05-02-2008 09:58 AM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 

ORIGINAL: Ridge Runner

don't know why......

and I haven't the equipment......

or the know how......
RR
Speaks volumes, considering you've just poo poo'd that which explains it....

You've been led to water, guess you wasn't thirsty.

Pawildman 05-02-2008 10:49 AM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 

ORIGINAL: Wilds


ORIGINAL: Ridge Runner

don't know why......

and I haven't the equipment......

or the know how......
RR
Speaks volumes, considering you've just poo poo'd that which explains it....

You've been led to water, guess you wasn't thirsty.
You claim to do R&D in the firearms line. You were asked point blank who you worked for. You gave no answer at all, just some more of your fluff/crap.
You have been told directly that we don't appreciate your demeanor and attitude with your smart-a$$ed answers and flippant behavior.
Yet you continue in your annoying way. You just don't get it, do you?? Why don't you just move on, "pard"??? You have alienated nearly everyone who has responded to your posts in some fashion. Your seamy little stories concerning your adventures with women have no place on this forum. Young people frequent here too, and this is no place for your type of commentary. You are personna non grata here as far as I'm concerned.

Doe Dumper 05-02-2008 10:59 AM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
LOL Ask him how many other forums hes been banned from. Things must be boring in the "sticks" . Thank God for ignore buttons.

oldelkhunter 05-02-2008 11:21 AM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
One of the few things I like on this site is the "Ignore" button ...

Paul L Mohr 05-02-2008 11:29 AM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
Some people just can't handle having an opinion. They are right and everyone else is stupid, that's the only way they see it.

Glad to see I'm not the only one that is not impressed.

Paul

Wilds 05-02-2008 11:30 AM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
Never once claimed to do R&D "work" for anyone, or any entity other than myself....and friends, aka, pards, huntin' buddies, shootin' buddies, ect.

Can't know where you misread what I wrote beyond a lame attempt to "corner" me on some figment of your imagination.

R&D is an anacronym for research and development....commonly done andknown as "load work up" by anyone who reloads. Only you couldfail tomake that simply obviousconnection......

As far as the girly stuff goes you yourself were the one who couldn'tquite get a handle onthe concept of"skookum" meaning the same as "cool" or "good"...and I figured you'd grasp it with a discriptive female analogy. My bad for not realizing you'd miss that by a mile,too...........

The simple truth is you and your friends here can't justifythe money/time/effort you've spent on load work-ups and long fat barrels in your quest for tiny groupswhen a stranger shows up anddumps purple kool-aid on you party with common sense, laws of physics, and quicker solutions.

BT/DT has merit........

Wilds 05-02-2008 11:33 AM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 

ORIGINAL: Paul L Mohr

Some people just can't handle having an opinion. They are right and everyone else is stupid, that's the only way they see it.

Glad to see I'm not the only one that is not impressed.

Paul
Word that "some people here, who've been here pattin' each others back for a long time....can't handle someone elses opinion" and you'd be spot on....

Wilds 05-02-2008 11:36 AM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 

ORIGINAL: Doe Dumper

LOL Ask him how many other forums hes been banned from. Things must be boring in the "sticks" . Thank God for ignore buttons.
Edited out the Arkansas reference I see....

Tho' I don't hail fromthere that still makes you a Chicken........

RugerM77.270 05-02-2008 11:43 AM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 

ORIGINAL: Wilds

Never once claimed to do R&D "work" for anyone, or any entity other than myself....and friends, aka, pards, huntin' buddies, shootin' buddies, ect.

Can't know where you misread what I wrote beyond a lame attempt to "corner" me on some figment of your imagination.

R&D is an anacronym for research and development....commonly done andknown as "load work up" by anyone who reloads. Only you couldfail tomake that simply obviousconnection......

As far as the girly stuff goes you yourself were the one who couldn'tquite get a handle onthe concept of"skookum" meaning the same as "cool" or "good"...and I figured you'd grasp it with a discriptive female analogy. My bad for not realizing you'd miss that by a mile,too...........

The simple truth is you and your friends here can't justifythe money/time/effort you've spent on load work-ups and long fat barrels in your quest for tiny groupswhen a stranger shows up anddumps purple kool-aid on you party with common sense, laws of physics, and quicker solutions.

BT/DT has merit........
Wilds, you got beat up a lot in school didn't you?

Wilds 05-02-2008 11:46 AM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
Could have my 12 year old come on here and explain Newberry's OCW priciples as he's a fair knowledge of it. Am afraid however, some one of you would choke on your Cheetos.......







It's a fair bet he can fish as good or better than me.....too.



Wilds 05-02-2008 11:49 AM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 

ORIGINAL: RugerM77.270

Wilds, you got beat up a lot in school didn't you?
Not a lot of tolerance fordumbchititude......

You claimin' thatfame too?

hillbillyhunter1 05-02-2008 11:58 AM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 

Disposable income IS a sumbitch at times ya know, when forced into such things as a Bushnell purchase to win a beer.

I believe the bet was, "Dude, betcha a beer you won't go across the street and buy a Bushnell anything.
Looks like you also bought some bushnell binocs for your boy as well as that elite scope you kept running down on another thread.

Must havewon two beers that day eh "wilds"???

RugerM77.270 05-02-2008 12:35 PM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
I've worked with a lot of people like you. They feel rejected from all the other group, so they find a new one in hopes of being accepted. They enter and try to act like the big man, they start by throwing out insultes and cut down because that is what they usually get, then they try to impress everyone with there cool lingo and I know more then you attitude, then finish off by telling of all their adventures and conquest. The truth is you could fit in any group fine if you took it easy and didn't try so hard.

The real truth is you have hijacked my thread and I have had to waste my valuable time to sift through your pleas for acceptance in order to filter out the knowledge that I need to decide on what barrel I want.

So play nice like the rest of us their are a lot of kids reading and you'll do just fine here.

Doe Dumper 05-02-2008 12:51 PM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 

ORIGINAL: Wilds


ORIGINAL: Doe Dumper

LOL Ask him how many other forums hes been banned from. Things must be boring in the "sticks" . Thank God for ignore buttons.
Edited out the Arkansas reference I see....

Tho' I don't hail fromthere that still makes you a Chicken........

LOL Yep I guess Ill play one more time here...


Does it make me a chicken? Because I have enough class to not ridicule and call names when my arguments are countered with logic? Do you get smacked around a lot? Is that why you've had to move from Cali to Wash to OR or even Paradise? I guess "lip service" is in demand in all of those states...especially in "big stick" country? I figure you must have surely found a home there. LOL If your "mcswirly" was so good Im betting you could find a group to keep you around...lol.

You are living proof that birth contol should be mandatory in houses of prostitution.....


SPS is more than just an affliction...its a state of mind...perhaps the doc can lead you to water on that but swallerin wouldnt be much of a prob for you would it....


Any other slurs ya care to sling our way there ol pal....then please pm me becauseI wont be able to see anything else you type....

Wilds 05-02-2008 12:56 PM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 

ORIGINAL: hillbillyhunter1


Disposable income IS a sumbitch at times ya know, when forced into such things as a Bushnell purchase to win a beer.

I believe the bet was, "Dude, betcha a beer you won't go across the street and buy a Bushnell anything.
Looks like you also bought some bushnell binocs for your boy as well as that elite scope you kept running down on another thread.

Must havewon two beers that day eh "wilds"???
Flatter yourself that you'd know a thing about my boy or his gear. Pride in getting his own stuff is one of his better attributes and seldom lets me buy anything for him, tho' he didn't mind the trade I made to get his first rifle...choosing instead to earn his own way.

The bino's were just such and effort and I can respect a 12 year old kid wanting to do what he can with what he has. Rare in today's world of the gimme generation. He knows whats good......and routinely grabs my Zeiss when he really wants to see something.

The scope BTW, is a Nikon, not an Elite...and I'm proud of you for knowing the difference.



Wilds 05-02-2008 12:58 PM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
I'm thinkin' you've me confused with someone else.............

Wilds 05-02-2008 01:01 PM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
What's obviously not obvious to you or your friends is that you can source what ever GoodBarrel length/contour thattrips your trigger and make it shoot well....

THAT point was made if you'd read it................

Paul L Mohr 05-02-2008 01:12 PM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 

ORIGINAL: Wilds


ORIGINAL: Paul L Mohr

Some people just can't handle having an opinion. They are right and everyone else is stupid, that's the only way they see it.

Glad to see I'm not the only one that is not impressed.

Paul
Word that "some people here, who've been here pattin' each others back for a long time....can't handle someone elses opinion" and you'd be spot on....
I don't think you have really been here long enough to make that judgement have you? I have been here a long time and I don't see that at all. There are some people here I really don't care for, and probably a few that don't care for me yet we still manage to respect each others opinions for the most part.

Every now and then we get a smart ass with a big ego like you that thinks they are God's gift to the hunting community and some tend to let them know they aren't that impressed. Although I'm going to guess you are probably an expert in everything you talk about. I know the type as well.

Paul

Wilds 05-02-2008 01:32 PM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
So then, the ball is in your court....since you are a resident Expert.

Do tell us how to make a rifle shoot, and by all means skip the first couple threehundred marks of yardage and go on out past 1K wilst yer at it.....

I anxiously await your expose' on the finer points of ballistics and firearms tuning........................

hillbillyhunter1 05-02-2008 01:48 PM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
My apologies ruger for helping aiding in the hijack...this is my last post off topic (in this thread:D)

Take care and good hunting

Pawildman 05-02-2008 02:02 PM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 

ORIGINAL: hillbillyhunter1

My apologies ruger for helping aiding in the hijack...this is my last post off topic (in this thread:D)

Take care and good hunting
My apologies also for the deterioration of the subject topic, but this Bozo's had this coming for some time now. The box just got too full and when it exploded, people unloaded from all angles. Sorry....my last shot at it too.....

Wilds 05-02-2008 02:09 PM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
Of course, when the balls is throwed out, theExperts doin' all the gripin' can't come thru'.....

I AM good at Fishin'...............

You need not a fat barrel, nor a long barrel, to make gains in "accuracy"...

All is needed is a judicous effort to understand the Physics.

Makin' rifles shoot is easy......................

Paul L Mohr 05-02-2008 02:30 PM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
I'm not sorry at all Ruger, can you live with that?;)

Wilds, I think at this point you have thrown the ball into an empty court because everyone left and doesn't want to play with you anymore.

Paul

Rammer 05-02-2008 02:39 PM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
This one time at college I lived with a kid just like you. He knew EVERYTHING about any subject mentioned. Hunting, yep an expert, fishing, yep an expert, women, yep you guessed it an expert. Needless to say, not many people enjoyed his company, most of my friends couldn't tolerate him past 10 minutes of conversation. As a matter of fact, this expert also had a disposable income.......He was an only child that never got off moms tit, bought everything he could think of, and then called mom and she paid his credit card bill...........You don't happen to have an Illagitament son from some "skookum" in Iowa?

gunnermhr 05-02-2008 04:08 PM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
Heck Wilds I kinda like the argument. I start everyday thinking I'm going to learn something new. Thank goodness you have contributed your 2 cents because I have learned a new language. I believe its WV Talk. Not to offend many of the good residents from WV but I know now why there are so many jokes generated from the area. It's because of people like yourself. I know Central PA has its share of Issues but at least your not one of them. By the way, WTF does fishing have to do with the rifle forum. Now you have posted two pics of Fish. You also mentioned something to someone about skipping the first 2 or 3oo yards and move out to 1K. Bring your short stiff shootin pole to Williamsport PA this weekend. Bring your checkbook too, maybe we can do a side bet. You have your 22" 308 and I'll bring something a little bigger. Let your ego at home and bring your Skookum kilitude attitude cause I think you might need it. :)

BigTiny 05-02-2008 06:15 PM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
It's not length so much as girth:





You're just not a man unless you shoot a .45-70.:D

nchawkeye 05-02-2008 06:23 PM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
Thanks guys!!!

You've had me chuckling all week at work, really made my day...:D

I've just gotta know though, who's idea was it to make up this new guy with all the answers,make himbabble like an engineer type that many of us have delt with in the past, with no real life experience and what little he has had is so impressed that he has to run around and announce it to the world???

Genius, pure genius...Ya'll realized it was the "off season" for many and still created some entertainment....Thanks...

Oh yea...Was RugerM77.270 in this from the beginning??? What really made this hit home for me is there is no way that there can be this much chatter over a simple thing as barrel length....

Thanks again!!!

CalHunter 05-02-2008 10:00 PM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
I've just spent more time than I should have to editing the last 7-8 pages on this topic. If you want to post more on the original topic, post away. If anybody is going to post more sexual innuendo or insults to each other, such posts will be edited and permabans requested. This is a family friendly website that is about hunting and hunters. Please follow the rules.

CalHunter
Moderator

Wilds 05-03-2008 05:58 AM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
I'm guessin' then, that to fit in on this site you first, shouldn't have any knowledge of rifle building, precision reloading, or precision shooting at long range......

And, second, you shouldn't understand the nuances of the Laws of Physics and how they apply to riflebuilding, reloading, and shooting.

A fat barreled, as issued factory Savage/scope combo.....shooting the cheapestfactory ammo on the shelf,is all you need.

Laffin' MFAO.........

Scott Gags 05-03-2008 03:20 PM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 

try staying on topic, and treat folks with a lil respect wether they agree with you or not.
Ridge that is good advice above. You should try following it yourself. Looking through your past posts you are one of the worst culprits on this site for not respecting others opinions.

Wilds 05-03-2008 03:53 PM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 

ORIGINAL: Ridge Runner


ORIGINAL:


OCW not only negates contour worries in a good barrel but diminishes such voodoo as bullet lot # differences, powder lot # differences, case capacity varience issues, weather/temp/humidity related issues, and such.......


pure BS!!! temp changes pressure, humidity changes the burn rate of powder. OCW is a theory that has never been proven 100%.
RR
So this is what YOU call treatingfolks "with a lil respect wether they agree with you or not."?????

You are a joke dude.......


ORIGINAL:Ridge Runner

besides, you didn't write the book on firearms

Never said I did write the book, but I did say I follow what's been written in them, and I understand it............but I can read though.

I argued with ya.....there's where I'm guilty.

'Twas you, not me, that gotyour panties twisted in a knot, and likely hammered a PM or two to a mod to put me in my place.

Makin' rifles shoot well,is easy......that partflew right over your head.

jtb1967 05-03-2008 07:53 PM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
I want a long barrel in a varmint rifle for velocity, but a shorter stiff barrel for pure accuracy and punching paper.

mello_collins 05-04-2008 09:22 AM

RE: How important is barrel length?
 
I have seen some darn thin barrels that were very accurate. They were high quality barrels on built hunting rifles. They may not have been able to group quickly all day because of barrel heating but with allowing for a good cool down they amazed me. The rifles belonged to some gentlemen I met at the range. They had them for hunting out west in the mountains where weight was a consideration. Then they broke out their heavy bean field rifles and really amazed me. The barrels were all high-end barrels with hand loads. Quality and hand loading were the determining factors. For the length it is up to you to decide what trade offs you want. Lighter and handier or max velocity. I think you need to make that your determining factor. If you hunt from a climber or have really long hikes a 26,28, or 30 heavy barrel may not be for you. That is just an example. Decide by looking at your hunting style. I don’t believe that length is the determining factor for accuracy. Some people like the longer barrels with slower powders and pushing the speed envelope and still get the accuracy. Others like the opposite. For me, if it were going to be a range gun mostly then I personally would pick a longer heavy barrel. As others have said you can’t add barrel length later.


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